P. Noel recorded 1740 in Conception Bay

From The Newfoundland Ancestor:

The reference to P. Noel in the John Davis accounts is the earliest record with that spelling. The article below incorporates layers of assumptions and draws some speculative conclusions. The widening of Selby Noel’s original Noels of Jersey tree is a work-in-progress.

The February entry probably indicates someone who had fished in 1739 and stayed on.

Since Clement Noel was previously the earliest recorded Noel, his tree, as prepared for Selby Noel, seems the first place to look. I believe Clement born 1715 in St Martin, Jersey had an uncle Philippe, a cousin Philippe Jr. and another cousin Philip of Edmond. This accounting record cannot indicate the uncle, who died in 1734. Philppe Sr. had married Marie Perchard in 1709. She seems to have died soon after having her first child, Philippe Jr., in 1724. So, young Philippe Noel had lost both natural parents by about 10 years old. I assume Phillippe Jr was raised by the the Noel or the Perchard families (unless Phillippe Sr.  had remarried). The possibility exists that he was raised as a younger brother of Clement who was 9 years older. This Philippe was probably not much more than 16 years old at the time of the entry. I remember in Selby’s notes there was a reference to oral history that a Philippe Noel had drowned. It was believed to be a son of Clement. The reference could account for an orphaned Phillippe Jr. The other cousin was baptised in the same year as Clement.

The Philippes and Jacques in the Noel decendant chart are particularly hard to sort out and I may have crossed over some of the connections. It is still an assumption that P. Noel and Clement were in the same family. Philip and James are names associated with the Newell family of Bareneed.

Selby Noel’s notes state Clement was in Freshwater by the year 1744. He does not state the source of this information. I believe that the Noels may have been in Harbour Grace first based on a reference in the Plantation records and the purchase document for the 2 properties from Tocque and Le Sueur in Freshwater. The document itself, though, and potentially anglicised surnames (Sweet, Dolby, Hammond, Jeffers, Harvey) seem to indicate a greater Jersey presence in the Freshwater area than appears ar first glance.

The tree done by Selby’s researcher incorporated some other assumptions provided by Selby. He was looking for a family with 3 brothers as the family legend indicated. The family provided by the researcher could potentially meet that requirement. Young cousin Philip, with no father, might have Clement playing the older brother role. Clement’s younger brother George seems to have left few records other than birth and death. He may have followed Clement into the fishery. This 3 brother scenario does rule out some potential candidates.

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Clement names his second son John and I wonder if that indicated a strong relationship with his brother John. Clement’s brother Jean had 8 children recorded in Jersey. I originally considered this enough to rule him out as a Newfoundland fisherman. I looked a little closer though and I think he probably was working the fishery as well. John’s children do not have an even distribution throughout the year. It is possible that his wife was conceiving and his children were being baptized around the seasonality of the fishery. The fisherman departed in April to prepare the infrastructure needed to operate. They wanted to leave before the fogs occurred in May. A few boats would delay until June when the fogs cleared up. If Jean had brother Clement resident in Newfoundland, he probably did not have to worry as much about the preparation for the season. He could probably take a later ship in June; especially if his wife was about to have another child. The couple seemed to have a child every 2 years so some years his departure would be unaffected. He is also getting back from the fishery a little early perhaps. Most years conception and baptism would not fall in the same calendar year. This would usually allow John to fish the first 4 months or last 4 months of the season. When his wife is conceiving is probably the more important metric. They would involve a decision on location whereas the baptism dates simply follow. The Newfoundland departure date probably has some flexibility. All ships probably did not leave at once. He never seems to have a Baptism or a baby conceived in June or July. Clement names his son John. It must have been after this brother or maybe his father-in-law. The name is not frequent in his family tree.

Jeanne Guillaume of Jacques is an interesting link. An earlier Jacques Guillaume was a mariner recorded going from Jersey to London in 1642. There also seems to be a family connection to Thomas Balleine who was a mariner in 1737 and the name comes up as a planter (could be Balling) as well. One transcription of the 1704 petition document has an Edward Gwilliam.

There seems to be a Noel connection to the De Quettevilles who were in Harbour Grace at this time. There also are Whittles/Houitels in Harbour Grace who seem to have multiple Noel links.

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Bristol’s Hope : The Founding of Harbour Grace: 

https://familyhistorybites.wordpress.com/

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2 New records:

From DA:

John Nowling – Planter, Petty Harbour,

1682  St. John’s area Planters –  Captain Daniel Jones of HMS Diamond

( Colonial Office 1.49     Folios 196 – 197 )

OR

Jem? Knoll 1705?????

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/cor-john-moody-defends-st-johns-1705.shtml

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Some other interesting links:

1. John Mannion’s Interesting NF Database

This database was built after years of his studying the Irish in Newfoundland. It is broader than that though. It includes many obscure transactions with non-Irish residents as well:

http://www.mannioncollection.ca/default.aspx

2. Anthony Varder Ledger posted by Dave Anstey:

https://sites.rootsweb.com/~cannf/cbn_avardersrledger.htm

(check recent updates on NL Genweb as well)

3. PCC Wills Free at National Archives during Covid

(with guest login)

4. Matthews Name Files Now Online

https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/keith/index.php

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Jersey Tree of Clement Noel Has Been Reconfirmed

Jerripedia has posted the tree (of Edemons Noel) provided by Selby Noel on their site. This corrects the tree they had posted in 2016. The work done by Selby and his researcher 30 years ago stands the test of time.

https://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Family_tree_index_N

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An Early Brigus Reference Thanx DA:

 

Newfoundland Northern District, Supreme Court Probate Register, Harbour Grace.  1805 – 1825.

 

Nov 18, 1807.  Page 33.

John Noel of Brigus says that Stephen Noel his son, about 18 years old was lost at the Ice, the 1st day of April last, being then in the service of William Piercey of Brigus; that he has left a balance of 4 Pounds, 7 Shillings, 9 Pence which was lodged in the hands of the deputy Sheriff by order of the Supreme Court, and prays for authority to reclaim the same.  Granted him a Certificate of Adminstration.

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25 January 1642 —
A Copy of petition of the Mayor, his brethren and the rest of the inhabitants of Clifton-Dartmouth-Hardnes, with the places adjacent, to the Justices of the Peace for the County of Devon. The petitioners, who are occupied in the Newfoundland fisheries, complain that their trade is likely to be destroyed in consequence of the number of Turkish pirates from Algiers and Sallee, the rebellion in Ireland, and the dread entertained of a popish rising.

Dartmouth 1642

713	Knowlinge	James	M1635	Brixham.
714	Knowlinge	Tho	M1645	Brixham.

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Cole-Documents/dartmouth-harbour-gathering-1642.shtml

More here:

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/11/20/1423/

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Some Bits:

1.

2. Clement of Carbonear and schooner:

3. The Noel property in Harbour Grace:

The Noels were in Harbour Grace prior to owning the properties in Freshwater (From the Freshwater property document) and plantation survey of 1804. The property the Noels were on in Southside Harbour Grace seems to have been handed down from the DeQuettevilles ca 1740, to Nicholas Fiott ca 1776, to John Clement and be occupied by the Noels and the Yetmans well prior to 1804. The Noels and the Yetmans were said to be related to the Clements.

4. After further DNA testing the Noels seem to have a YDNA connection to the Bareneed Newells. Further YDNA testing by other Noel/Newells would be helpful.

5. There has been a good participation in autosomal DNA from Noel descendants through the various companies. I am now seeing about 30 Noel kits on GEDmatch where kits from the various companies can be compared.

6. Clement Noel Jr worked for the Slades while the family was in Moreton’s Hr. He seems to have been there from 1808 (possibly 1805) to 1815 at least. Joseph Neal recorded in the 1836 census there is possibly Joseph Noal who would have been born ca 1809.

Taylors who seem to be cousins of the Noels were nearby. Joseph Noel died in Harbour Grace.

https://www.mun.ca/mha/holdings/findingaids/slade.php

7. John Noel living 1813 -1815 at least on Martha Butt’s property in Crocker’s Cove.

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The First Newell

The Search for Richard Newell (Factor ca 1623)

The quest for this man is based on the earliest Noel/Newell mentioned in Newfoundland. Thomas Cole records him as a factor for John Slaney the Treasurer of The Newfoundland Company.

Recently John Philip Newell published an article based on Richard Newell’s Journals.

He has started a website documenting his family research. He started researching the Newells of the Dock (Bareneed) and has pursued various Noel/Newell genealogical strands for many years.

His website:

johnpnewell.com .

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A broad list of those involved in the first colony:

Coopers Cove 1610

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A few Noel items here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20091027184644/http://ca.geocities.com/colestips/Noel.htm

Coletips Index to other surnames and more here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040521174038/http://www3.sympatico.ca/colestips/index.html

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Geoff Martin’s notices – Noel/Newell/Neil

newspaper-clippings

Freshwater Petition:

Petition 1784

Family Search Update

Family search has made their data more user friendly. Most recently they made all their Vital Statistics searchable:

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1929955

Vital records are now entirely searchable……

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The Colonial Secretary’s Letterbook

 by Olaf U. Janzen, Professor of History
Grenfell Campus, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Corner Brook, Newfoundland

I had not seen these indexing projects before and found them very useful:

The Colonial Secretary’s Letterbook & CO 194 Indexes

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/Letterbook/

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/CO194/index.htm

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Norman C Krischke

This site is possible because of the work of Norman C. Krishke. In this version of our website we have abandoned 2 principles of his research. First we have abandoned the family lines that made up his book “Gather up the Noels”. I felt we had connected enough of the lines that a tree format made more sense. The second change is that I have tried to force the early Noels into their most likely locations, if necessary, by weak family links or even timing. This has given a Macro view of the family which was never possible before. After this exercise I must now go back and correct obvious errors and get feedback from researchers who have better information on specific individuals and family units. This exercise has already borne fruit but researchers should consult me if they have issues with some of the early data. The basis of all this work remains Norman’s monumental efforts in tracking down all the Noel family lines of Newfoundland. I hope he would approve of our efforts. Some chapters of his book may be of interest to various researchers and they should contact me for more info.

Norman’s Main line of interest – William Noel & Elizabeth of Harbour Grace

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Frances Newell nee Mugford and the Port de Grave Connection

An update on Nicholas Newell and Frances Mugford from Walter Batten:
Aug 5, 1817
Superior Court
St. John’s.

Nicholas Newell, St. John’s Planter Memorial. Married Frances, the eldest daughter of the late Robert Mugford of Port de Grave , Planter deceased. The Mugford Will in 1772 left land there to his wife Ann and then to his daughter Frances. Mugford died about 1794. His will:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-mugford-robert-7-168.shtml

His widow died in 1813. She had leased the property for 31 years to John Walsh who assigned it to Pete MacPherson who now would not pay. Sep 15, 1817. Continuation of Case. Frances claimed the property and won.

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John Noel, father of John Frederick of Harbour Grace tied in

Gloria Bruce has managed to tie-in the John Frederick Noel line. Norman Krischke had believed this line originated in Jersey. Gloria found the death certificate identifying his birth place as Moreton’s Harbour. David Pike provided baptismal information going past 1900. An interesting record:

Noel, John

25. Oct. 1816

23. Feb. 1907

Noel, Clement & Mary

Moreton’s Hr, Green Bay

Fisherman

Baptised at 91 years old……

This puts him in a family unit with sister Elizabeth and probably makes him a great grandson of Clement of Carbonear.

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How Far Back Are We Going To Go?

I had just turned back the dial on Clement below when I got slammed by another early indicator.

Nicholas Newell has turned into a most interesting character. He made the 1794 census in Quidi Vidi. His wife’s estate was in dispute and clear records were left about his family. He seems to have left a business document. There is a reference to a Port de Grave property in the family. If that was not enough……there are 2 versions of the 1794 census posted that are not identical. The one I was using lists him as born in Newfoundland. The other one puts 99 years for how long resident. I take this to mean his family has been in Newfoundland for more than 100 years. This puts the Noels/Newells back to the late 1600’s assuming DNA continues to indicate a connection for various lines. I hope I am interpreting this right, I could not find a clear answer online.

I think I was already heading to that conclusion. Clement Noel/Newells are scarce in England. Clement with the Jersey influence and an early Clement surname, is more common in Newfoundland. The door remains open for ties to the Trinity Newells and also some early St. John’s records. There is also Richard Newell in the Port de Grave area in 1623.

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A Fresh Look at Clement Noel of Freshwater

Born ca 1725 or even 1715

I was recently looking at the Nicholas Newell line which ends up in Pouch Cove.  I ended up estimating Nicholas Newell’s birth at 1755.  Clememt Newell of Freshwater’s birth had long been viewed to be 1735, assuming Clement 1760 was his first son. This would be normal in a Jersey family but not so much in an English one. In order to check the feasibility, I went back to look at the obituary found by John Philip Newell of Elizabeth Hudson (nee Newell). This was new info I had not yet incorporated. I thought she had died young in 1797. But what I had read quickly as 25 years was 25 years since a religious change. I estimated her age at death as 47 making her born in 1750 – confirming the previous assumptions. This moves the Noel/Newell generations back by 10 years. The assumed children such as Neil probably had more children earlier before records survived. If Nicholas is the first son it may be a potential indicator of Clement’s father’s name as well.

An estimate of the birth of James Noel of Bareneed is ca 1740. I think it is possible he is the son of Clement as well. The DNA connection (12 marker match) between Bareneed Newells and Harbor Grace Clement of 1804 opens the door for this direct family link. This would mean Clement may have been born around 1715 and died in 1795 at 80.

The earlier start of the family could  partially account for the rapid proliferation we see in the Noels/Newells.

Carbonear Noel/Newells spread out?

Ted Newell of Bareneed recorded:

James Newell of Bareneed b ca 1740 – pretty early

Nicholas Newell of Pouch Cove b ca 1752 (had property in Port de Grave District)

Abram Erel (Noel?) of Burnthead ca 1742

Daniel of Nicholas? to Grate’s Cove b ca 1775

History of Freshwater by Roland Noel:

http://www.freshwater-carbonear.com/

and Graham Butt:

http://www.oocities.org/freshwater_carbonear/notes_of_a_bygone_era.htm

Joseph Noel Ancestors in Jersey

2 generations tracked here:

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/joseph-noel-neal-military/

Jerripedia – Jersey Information Update

Jerripedia has posted indexed baptismal information for all parishes. They will be following up with marriages and burials. This will be hugely helpful for linking families across the pond.

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Family_records

Henry Noell with Gilbert 1578 (W. Gosling) but backs out

Sir Humphrey Gilbert fleet list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Knollys_(MP)

If a Henry Noell joined Gilbert later as reported here it must have been another relative.

early names nfld

from Thomas Cole Notes

1675 – Ship: Bricksom Merchant, Brixham, Capt. Nicholas Newell, (Nowell) bapt Brixham 1630 s/o Philip

1705- Bonavista- Captain of the  Pembroke from London, John Noll (his brother?).

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/brixham-devon-nowells/

This Knoll name appearing in this 1704 document is likely Charles Nowles

(or his family) who appears in 1706 St. John’s inhabitants

’1704 Thomas Newell document (Knoll also)

Bridgewater Noels

Josiah Noel founded Bridgewater in the 1880’s. He was the son of Moses Noel (b. 1816). Josiah lived in New Bay and Chance Harbour before settling in with his family in Bridgewater where his descendants still live.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=petenoel&id=I391

Jersey Documents (with translation)

A very big thank you to James Brannon. He first posted that he had the Noel/Renouf documents about 10 years ago. When we contacted him he provided us with copies. The Lower Canada (Quebec) document outlines a land transfer in 1812 between Henry Renouf, an ancestor of James Brannon, and Josue Noel of the Newfoundland Regiment. At the time the regiment was garrisoned in Quebec. This is probably just before Joseph departs to Upper Canada in the war of 1812. It identifies Josue as a native of St Mary, Jersey and his parents as Philipe, a tailor now deceased, and Rachel LeCornu. Josue, it is noted, signs as Joseph Noel. Joseph’s descendants if any have not been identified. The second document is the registration of the transaction in Jersey.

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/jersey-land-transaction-1812/

1817 – Tragedy on Sealing Schooner – Captain John Noel

Early in April, 1817 a sealing schooner belonging to Thomas Danson, a merchant of Harbour Grace, blew up a few miles off Cape St. Francis, at the mouth of ConceptionBay…………more

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/off-beat-history-tragedy-on-sealing-schooner/

1831 – John Newell survives wreck of Azariah from Cupids

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/1831-john-newell-survives-wreck-of-azariah/

The Newell Family of Trinity Bay (link on right)

Frank Jones has given us permission to post his work on these Newells that he tracks from the 1600’s. It is a very good read and the effort involved becomes obvious as one follows the generations. He has some additonal data we will post at a later date. His work has been followed up by Herb Gaudie. We have Herb’s rough notes available on a line that moved to Carbonear and then Boston. We will try to reformat them shortly (use tools in PDF to rotate document). There is now interest in trying to tie-in the Newells of Bareneed to this line.

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/newells-trinity-bay/

The Montreal and Quebec Eastern Township Noels

From about 1890 there were Noels moving from Newfoundland to Montreal. I have marked some of these on Directories and Census tables. If you spot more let me know. We have Samuel Noel of the Joseph Noel Line and Aaron of Jonathan in 1901. Later Nathaniel of the Bryant’s Cove Noels followed by Eldred of The Martin Noel line arrive. The 4 surviving children of Bertram – Reginald, Naboth, Annie and Cedilla are in Montreal in 1911. Naboth “Nabe” settled in Richmond in the Eastern Townships. Many of the Montreal Noels were in Verdun. Some were aware of this family as their numbers grew.

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/montreal-noels/

The Bryant’s Cove Noels (as opposed to Neils)

This branch looks like it migrated over the ridge from Southside Harbour Grace in the 1860’s or so. The branch seems to feature the name Frederick Noel frequently through the generations. At the moment it is preliminary and we are trying to fill in more details to feel more comfortable with this line. Of course we cannot enter Bryant’s Cove without meeting up with Eric Neil. This is one of his maternal lines.

The Lost Tribe? – The Thomas Noel Line

A couple of times over the years we have had references to the Thomas Noel Line. We seem to have pinned down  to what family line it refers. The Thomas Noel line is the William and Elizabeth line (link on the left). To the best of our knowledge this is an independent line from the Jersey Noels. The name seems to be called the Thomas Noel line either because of William Thomas the son of William or because the family has actually preserved the name of William’s father. William Thomas married Elizabeth Higgins. The Hiiggins family had land in Southside Harbour Grace registered since 1775. The oral history of 3 brothers arrival in Newfoundland is shared by this branch.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=petenoel4&id=I1

Back at it

After a 7 year hiatus, I am back looking at Family History. I received an email from one of the Newells who came from the Bareneed clan. He had a match on my DNA and wanted to see how our families might be linked. I started to go back through things to see what I could come up with.

http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/ParishRecords/HrGrace_ang_bap.shtml

Joseph Noel Family Ties to Jersey Identified

While gathering additional information on Joseph I had come across a reference to an old land transfer document between Joseph and a  gentleman in Jersey. The document stated that Josue Noel was the son of Philippe Noel and Rachel LeCornu of St. Mary Jersey

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/1812-jersey-connection/

I contacted a number of researchers who were interested in the Noels and we have started communicating again. Eric has sought the details of Joseph’s military life and reviewed the property transactions he was involved in.  We have also been trying to bring separate branches of the Harbour Grace Noels into the main tree. I think we have had some success although it is still a work-in-progress and should be taken as such by serious genealogists. At the same time we have launched this new blog to replace our old website.

The old website remains active until everything is transferred.

http://www.din.ca/noel/

Pete Noel

 

Freshwater/Carbonear

Freshwater View ca 1900

Clement Noel of Freshwater appears to be the first Noel of a line that based on oral history came from Jersey.

In November 1774 Clement Noel purchased 2 properties in Carbonear. Clement was a very religious man who had joined Lawrence Coughlan’s Methodist Church. One of the properties seems to have been connected to that church. He made a purchase from “one LeSuier”. Pierre Le Sueur left Newfoundland and Coughlan’s fold in 1774/5 to start up the Methodist religion in St. Helier, Jersey. The other property was purchased from Philip Tocque. The Tocque family of Carbonear family were principals in Tocque and Levi trading company. It may not have been formed at that time. The famous historian was a member of this family. If the 2 adjacent properties were the ones  in the Plantation records ca 1805, there may have been a connection between Tocque and Le Sueur. It is mentioned that Le Sueur lost a business partner. Clement gave one of the properties to his son John in 1777. The other was willed to Clement Jr. who later moved to Harbour Grace. I am not sure if this property was left to James Noel.

The associated property document:

Clement property

Fishermen’s Petition

Petition 1784

Selby Noel checked all the Clement Noel candidates in Jersey and found no suitable candidates. It seems on his return he found an error in his assumptions and in fact a Clement Noel born 1715 had been excluded in error. I think this left the only viable candidate but I do not believe it has been checked on the Jersey side.

That St Martin, Jersey family unit seems to be:

12 Sep 1714 Clement Son of Clement and Elizabeth Messervy

16 Apr 1715 Clement Son of Clement and Elizabeth Messervy

22 Feb 1719 Marie Daughter of Clement and Elizabeth Messervy

01 Jun 1722 Jean Son of Clement and Elizabeth Messervy

21 Nov 1725 George Son of Clement and Elizabeth Messervy

22 Feb 1729 Jeanne Daughter of Clement and Unknown Messervy

22 Feb 1729 Sara Daughter of Clement and Unknown Messervy

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/St_Martin_baptisms_-_N

A Captain Messervy sold land (#1003) in Northside Harbour Grace in 1760.

In June 1769 in Jersey, Capt. John Messervy who was involved in shipping corn to France on his ship
“Marie”  was detained  and 14 women were taken by the Vicomte to the quay  under
arrest for allegedly trying to ship small quantities of wheat in the vessel.

Click to access P.107-2012%20(re-issue).pdf

http://nl.canadagenweb.org/cbhg_pr1805-122-141.htm

Some Captains Messervy of the period:

• Messervy, Clement – privateer captain, Ambition 1752, Dragon 1757, Active 1778, St Charles 1780, Jupiter 1790, Elizabeth 1744-57. Captain Messervy, while master of the Guernsey privateer Dragon was fined £200 for engaging crew from Jersey without permission
• Messervy, Daniel – Molly 1769-72
• Messervy, Elie – Prince of Wales 1788, Enterprise 1794. Captain Messervy was captured by the French 8.3.1794 and taken into Brest
• Messervy, Francis – Jersey 1776, Beaver 1778
• Messervy, George – Elizabeth 1744, Delvarde 1756
• Messervy, H – Enterprise 1780
• Messervy, Jean – lived St Aubin 1775, Elizabeth 1744-57, Union 1750-57
• Messervy, Nicolas – lived Bulwarks, St Aubin, 1789, Phoenix 1756-65
• Messervy, Noe – Union 1750-55, Phoenix 1756-65, Mary 1790
• Messervy, Philip – Stagg 1780-90, Friendship 1790-92, Dundas 1803, Hazard 1820

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Jersey_sea_captains

Dec. 1729 (rec’d) 11 Dec. 1729 (read)

Merchants of London, Bristol, Dartmouth, Whitehaven

They are in support of Col. Gledhill. Thomas Kennedy, J. Duboies, Durand [?], Bertenan [?], F. Picote, R. Hanarer [?], J. Benn, Robert Harris, G. Hall, B. Barnard, William Crosse, J. London, William Woodrop, John Farmer, William Newcommin, Sam Levit [?]

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/CO194/CO194-8.htm

(Picot of Jersey?)

I think based on my experience with the Martin family, Jerseyman may be a generic term for Channel Islander and Guernsey probably needs to be checked as well. There was an early Noel family there.

I think Thomas Cole’s work points to the possibility that Trinity Newells may have spread to other parts of Newfoundland.

Carbonear/Freshwater Noels Family Line Scenario

THIS CONTAINS SPECULATION. PLEASE DO YOUR OWN RESEARCH!

The Carbonear Noels are clearly descended from Clement Noel born ca 1715-1720. Because there are few records from this time, a complete list of his sons and daughters may be impossible to assemble. It requires starting with the available records and working back.

From the Plantation records of 1804, 2 sons are clearly identified – John1 and Clement Jr. Clement Jr left Carbonear and moved with his family to Harbour Grace. I think this means that possibly all the Carbonear Noels are descended from John1. It is likely that other sons of Clement moved elsewhere or died. He had daughters Elizabeth, Mary, Jane and Martha.

John1 Noel (1755-1811) and his Freshwater/Carbonear descendants

John1 married Frances Moores. It seems some of their children were the eldest son Clement, John2, Jonathan Moores,and George. Frances died in 1797.

In the 1832 and 1839 voters lists there appears to be 4 lines of Noels as follows:

470	Noel	John (John2)	Carbonear	Lower Street
471	Noel	Clement	Carbonear	Lower Street
472	Noel	James	Freshwater
473	Noel	Jonathan Moors	Freshwater

I am assuming these are all sons of John1 except for James who is a grandson.

1) Roland Noel has provided the best tracking I have seen in the Freshwater/Carbonear area. It was recorded by Norman Krischke in the 1980’s. Since that time  new information has become available which I have incorporated.

A Place Called Home – Roland Noel’s Freshwater site

This is the Jonathan Moores Noel line:

Jonathan Moores Noel

2) The other line in Freshwater is that of James. I have assumed he is a son of John 2 and Charlotte.

James	John & Charlotte	not given	bap Mar 4 1810
Charlotte	John & Charlotte	not given	bap Mar 4 1810
Jane	John & Charlotte	b Nov 3 1810	bap Jan 31 1811
Jane	John & Charlotte	b Feb 14 1810	bap Feb 2 1812

This an attempt at mapping his descendants. Please check for errors.

James Noel and Ann Penney

Thanks to Geoff Martin

Possibly the  Ann Penney of interest

PENNEY	Thomas	William & Mary	b Sep 22 1811	bap Jan 26 1812	Freshwater
PENNEY	Ann	William & Mary	b Feb 16 1814	bap May 7 1815	Freshwater
PENNEY	John	William & Mary	not given	bap May 10 1818	Freshwater
PENNEY	Edward Sparkes	William & Mary	not given	bap Mar 3 1824	Freshwater

Mary the widow of Robert Joyce  and was nee Sparkes married 1810 Carb METH? William Penney was of Christchurch, England.

The lines of Clement and John2 seem to have more gaps in the records. Possibly because they were just a bit earlier. I think the St. Anthony Noels are descended from 1 of these 2 lines.

3) Clement of John1 married Mary Hopkins in 1812 and seems to have relocated from Freshwater to Carbonear. These records have a lot of gaps.

Clement of John

4) I believe John2 married Charlotte.

James	John & Charlotte	not given	bap Mar 4 1810
Charlotte	John & Charlotte	not given	bap Mar 4 1810
Jane	John & Charlotte	b Nov 3 1810	bap Jan 31 1811
Jane	John & Charlotte	b Feb 14 1810	bap Feb 2 1812

A John Noel married an Ann Powell in 1831 – possibly John3 Noel.

William	John & Ann	not given	bap Apr 5 1833
John	John & Ann	b Feb 20 1837	bap Mar 8 1837
Stephen John	John & Ann	b Feb 20 1837	bap June 11 1837
Charlotte Jeffers	John & Ann	b Oct 13 1839	bap Nov 17 1839
Albert Charles	John & Ann	b Dec 15 1845	bap June 7 1846

John4 rebaptised as Stephen John?

5) The death of George is recorded in 1803 at 20 years old.

Freshwater & Clown’s Cove Plantation Book 1805

Early Family Connections:

Taylor information:

http://familiesofnfld.wordpress.com/category/taylors/

The Taylor connection leads to an inferred Moores connection.

http://familiesofnfld.wordpress.com/category/moores/

and apparently the Garlands:

garlands

Some documents:

Will of Clemence Noel b ca 1715

Clement_will

Clement Noel Will original

Clement Noel letter 1774

http://www.freshwater-carbonear.com/

Study of Methodism analyzing Clement Noel’s Letter

http://collections.mun.ca/cdm4/document.php?CISOROOT=/theses2&CISOPTR=46864&REC=4

Clement of John probate

John and Son Clement business document – Carbonear from Al Beagan:

Clement_doc

Death of Elizabeth Noel, daughter of Clement Sr.:

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/obituaries/

A little trouble with the authorities:

Ann Noel Carbonear

Noels of St Anthony, Badger and Carbonear

Provided by Clayton Noel

Clayton Carbonear Noels Data 21

Followup:

The death certificate is as reported by Clayton. The name Newell is used and born in Carbonear.

He is reported as 69 years old. If there is an error of one year then there may be a candidate:

NOEL	John NEWELL	John & Ann	POWELL	b Feb 20 1837	bap Mar 8 1837	Carbonear	planter	Carb Vital
NOEL	Stephen John NEWELL	John & Ann	POWELL	b Feb 20 1837	bap June 11 1837	Carbonear	planter	Carb Vital
NOEL	Charlotte Jeffers	John & Ann	POWELL	b Oct 13 1839	bap Nov 17 1839	Carbonear	fisherman	Carb Vital
NOEL	Albert Charles NEWELL	John & Ann	POWELL	b Dec 15 1845	bap June 7 1846	Carbonear	planter	Carb Vital

John Newell 1890 st Anthony

 

 

 

Captains, Ships and Seamen

Thank you Geoff Martin for this article

Clement Noel of Jersey Shipwreck 1931

Clement Noel 1831 shipwreck

The Search for Richard Newell (Factor ca 1623)

The quest for this man is based on the earliest Noel/Newell mentioned in Newfoundland. Thomas Cole records him as a factor for John Slaney the Treasurer of The Newfoundland Company.

Recently John Philip Newell published an article based on his Journals:

This is the abstract from my paper on Richard Newall’s voyage to Nfld. in 1623.

The full paper is copyrighted by publisher but you should be able to get a copy through the library.

 

Here is a summary:

 

No leads re his possible connections to Nfld. prior to this voyage and subsequent research indicates that there are no voyages to Nfld recorded in his journal for 1624 or 1625 (the years covered in his journal). Will keep you updated on future papers.

On his voyage in 1623 he went as an agent for Slaney and Cloberry to collect fish in Nfld for the return voyage while the ship was delivering colonists to Nova Scotia. He spent the summer in Conception Bay buying fish from other ships that were fishing in the bay. One possible lead is that the master of the ship (William Wills) was his cousin and was the person that hired him. Wills continue to work as a Master for Slaney in subsequent years.

 

Richard Newall’s voyage to Newfoundland in 1623:

New insights into Sir William Alexander’s attempts to establish a Scottish colony in Nova Scotia

In 1623, Sir William Alexander dispatched a ship from London to establish a Scottish colony in present day Nova Scotia. This was his second attempt after a ship dispatched in the previous year turned back before reaching Nova Scotia. The 1623 voyage stopped in St. John’s, Newfoundland to pick up the colonists from the earlier voyage, then sailed to Nova Scotia where it surveyed the coast then returned to St. John’s without establishing a colony. The only record of this voyage was in a pamphlet published by Sir William in 1624. Analysis of an unpublished handwritten journal kept by a Richard Newall on a voyage to Newfoundland in 1623 demonstrates that Richard was on the ship chartered by Sir William on its voyage from London to St. John’s. This journal provides new information on the ship, its crew, the colonists and the merchants involved in the voyage.

 

http://ijh.sagepub.com/content/28/1/102.abstract

 

A broad list of those involved:

Coopers Cove 1610

Great info here including early letters:

http://www.baccalieudigs.ca/default.php?display=cid38

Found by John Philip Newell:

Interested in a Richard Newell who was agent in Newfoundland c1623 f

or the London merchant John Slaney. Was he the same Richard Newell

married in 1608 at Lyme Regis to Margaret Coggan?

(he mentions Alexander Sanford of Lyme travelling to the colony)

Thomas R Cole

________________________________________________________

I started in London.

Richard Newell Of the East India Company

A Richard Newell was on the Sixth East India Voyage 
(1610-1615). He was still active there in 1619.

http://wiki.fibis.org/index.php?title=HEIC_Early_Voyages

Captain Martin Pring, aboard the James Royal, in THE Straits of 
Sunda, to the Company, March 23, 1619 (a C, 784).  
Forwards a copy of his previous letter [see p. 29]. After the 
departure of the Bull, the rest of the fleet held on their 
course down the west coast of India. In lat. 11° 25' they 
descried the Portuguese fleet from Malacca making for Goa, 
and chased but could not overtake them. On April 2 [161 8] they 
anchored in the Bay of * Brenjan ' [see p. i], and spent three 
days taking in water, goats, hens, &c. The people are 
treacherous, and it would not be safe for a single ship to 
water there. On April 7 saw Cape Comorin. Nathaniel Salmon, 
master of the Gift, died on the loth ; he was replaced by John 
Hatch, while Richard Newell was made master of the Bee. On 
April 14 the latter ship was dispatched to Masulipatam. Next 
day the Gift parted company for Sumatra, leaving Pring in the 
James, with the Francis and a Portuguese prize, to sail 
direct for Bantam. On May 13 the Francis was cast off as 
unserviceable. They arrived at Bantam

The Bee sent to Persia and to Masulipatam and Bantam 

Earlier References:

Richard Newell East India Co

In an account of the voyage a Francis Slanny is killed fighting

the Turks. Humphrey Slaney had an older brother Francis.

__________________________________________

One of the patentees of The Newfoundland Company, Ellis

Crispe, had a relative by marriage named Richard Newell, a

Clothworker. This Richard Newell born ca 1581 had a son

William in 1610. A series of wills led me to the family connection.

He became a Master Clothworker in 1602. He hired 5 Apprentices

from 1607 to 1614 and then his activity seems to stop. He provides

freedom to one of his apprentices in 1816. After that there are no

further records. He may have joined anotheer Livery company,

taken up other employ, or died. He had strong family connections

he would have had opportunities.

Richard Newell of Saint Michael Bassishaw

____________________________________________

Another logical starting point is the London family of

Sir Martin Noel (see separate category).

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/london-financiers/

This family’s business matches the Newfoundland connection. Our

Richard was born about 1786 though and Sir Martin and his siblings

were born after 1610. It is possible Richard was an uncle of this family

and  active before the successes of Martin Noel. Martin Noel lived in

the parish of St Olave Old Jewry which borders St Michael Bassishaw.

The family seemed to place representatives in the major centres of

trade while Martin handled the politics and deal-making in London.

Matthew in East India and Thomas in Barbados. They did business

with the Americas and perhaps had a representative there.

In 1637 and 1639 a Richard and William Newell were landed in Norfolk,

Virginia. Based on the transaction they may have been merchants:

There is a William Nowell arriving in 1639 in Warwick 
River County, Virginia and a Richard Nowell arriving in 1637 
in New Norfolk County, Virginia. Surry County, Virginia Records 
1652-1684 by Eliza Timberlake Davis:

"Page 204. 16 December 1662. Jno. Clements 380 lbs. of tobacco 
in settlementof a bill due from Clements to Thomas Shorte for 
517 lbs. tob. paid Mr. Jno. North & Richard Newell."

It looks like a Jonathan Newell of York County,Virginia, died 
ca 1675, left account books and was likely a merchant.

_____________________________________________________________
A fourth possibility I pursued is a Richard Newell, Draper. 
This man purchased land adjacent to the Slaney property in 
Linley, Shropshire and had dealings with other Merchant 
Taylors. I thought he was the same person as the Bassinshaw 
Richard but he may be a separate character.

His transactions of interest:

Richard Newell Draper

Just to confuse things, a Richard Newell, Draper also 
appears here at a later date:

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID
=I35969&tree=London


Other Coopers Cove Info

The Daily News,  December 31, 1937 

The Dawe family of Ship Cove, Port de Grave, have a 
tradition that has been handed down through the 
centuries in their family. That tradition says that
when John Guy’s company arrived on their very first 
visit to Newfoundland, in 1610, they headed into 
Ship Cove to land, and found their first colony 
there. There were met outside by some of the Daws 
(then spelled Daw) who succeeded in persuading the 
newcomers that it would be foolish of them to go 
into Ship Cove – that it would be much better for 
them to go further up the Bay, to Cuper’s Cove, 
etc, etc. The Daws, as a matter of fact, were 
recorded as settled in Ship Cove 
from 1595 — fifteen years before Guy came.

From Prwose's History - A letter from Cupids 1613

coopers Colston's letter 1613

Calendar of the Cecil Papers in Hatfield House, Volume 20, 1608, ed. M S Giuseppi and G Dyfnallt Owen (London, 1968)

Michell (Mychell), Gilbert, of Bodmin, co. Cornwall, J.P. 
-, signs joint report on provisioning of ships fishing off Newfoundland, 285

-, report on furnishing of ships bound for Newfoundland with corn, 284, 285
Collwell, Roger, a Cornish brewer 
-, purveys corn to ships sailing to Newfoundland, 284
 licence for David Rosse to pass into the Newfoundland to make provision of hawks for his Majesty, with a commandment to the masters of ships to suffer him to pass thither and return in any of their ships; and also that every ship carry one dog for the sustenance of the said hawks. Dated 19th. Subscribed and procured by Sir Thomas Lake.


http://www.british-history.ac.uk/cal-cecil-papers/vol20/pp382-389

Cuper’s Cove

Noels – Financiers of London (origin Stafford)

Note; all this info is pulled from the internet. Do your own research.

It is possible some info may  relate to Martin Jr and not Sr.

The most notable of this family was probably Sir Martin Noel. 
He provided large investments in several of Cromwells schemes 
on the understanding that he would farm customs revenue that 
would accrue. In Parliament he was a "kinglet," and he sat 
throughout. He helped take Hispaniola for the crown.

Pepy’s Diary 1665

And one thing more, Sir Martin Noell’s lady is dead with griefe for

the death of her husband and nothing else, as they say, in the world;

but it seems nobody can make anything of his estate, whether he be

dead worth anything or no, he having dealt in so many things, publique

and private, as nobody can understand whereabouts his estate is, which is

the fate of these great dealers at everything.

Family

http://histfam.familysearch.org/getperson.php?personID=I23309&tree=London

SAINT MARY CHURCH, , ,	STAFFORD	STAFFORDSHIRE
George Nowell	christening:	07 Apr 1570	parents:Martin Nowell, Ann
Edward Nowell	christening:	20 Aug 1567	parents:Martin Nowell, Ann
Emma Nowell	christening:	14 Jun 1562	parents:Martin Nowell, Ann
Robt. Nowell	christening:	05 Jul 1572	parents:Martin Nowell
James Nowell	christening:	10 Mar 1566	parents:Martin Nowell, Ann
Thos. Nowell	christening:	04 Jul 1563	parents:Martin Nowell, Ann
Eliz. Nowell	christening:	02 Jul 1564	parents:Martin Nowell, Ann
Henry Nowell	christening:	25 Nov 1618	parents:Edward Nowell, Grace
Ann Nowell	christening:	05 Jun 1616	parents:Edward Nowell, Grace
Matthew Nowell	christening:	27 Dec 1612	parents:Edward Nowell, Grace
Martin Nowell	christening:	11 Mar 1614	parents:Edward Nowell, Grace
Steven Nowell	christening:	26 Dec 1610	parents:Edward Nowell, Grace
Thos. Nowell	christening:	06 Sep 1620	parents:Edward Nowell, Grace
Isabel Nowell	christening:	18 Sep 1627	parents:Robt. Nowell, Margt   Baggaley

 
His tomb says he is descended from the Lancashire Nowells.

Nowell Pedigree Lancaster

http://www.great-harwood.org.uk/about/people/Families/
nowell.htm

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/
cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=ancestorsearch&id=I13673

http://www.broughfamily.org/history/broughs_1055-1510_ad.html

Born c. 1613 ; probably a son of Edward Noel of Stafford by 
Grace, daughter of James Noel of Peshale (who was a cousin 
of Walter Noel of Hilcote). (LDS has this Christening in 1614) 
Martin Noel lived in ST OLAVE OLD JEWRY,LONDON,ENGLAND  
later Sir Martin Noell, of Chancery Lane
Martin christened with his wife Elizabeth Ann, Jane, 
Theodosius,Grace, Decima, Nathaniel 1650-1660 
LDS batch# C024052

He was brother-in-law of Cromwell's Secretary of State, 
John Thurloe and they shared postal revenue. 
A report says Elizabeth was a rich widow.
Martin Noel started as a scrivener. 

Scrivener (or scribe) was a Middle English term 
for a person who could read and write. This usually 
indicated secretarial and administrative duties such as 
dictation and keeping business, judicial, and history records 
for kings, nobles, temples, and cities. Scriveners later 
developed into public servants, accountants, lawyers and 
petition writers. [ 

Later Martin Noel was 
a London merchant who advised Cromwell on colonial 
administration until complaints were made about him. Noel 
was a member of the East India Company with West Indian 
connections - he traded with Montserrat and Nevis and 
became Marshall of Barbados where he had a plantation. 
His brother Thomas Noel traded with Surinam and Barbados. 
(some question if this was his brother)He also owned land 
in Wexford, Ireland. Martin Noel appears to have been
married to a Miss Thurloe as Thurloe was his brother-in-law. 

Martin Noell was probably the most 
conspicuous London merchant of his time. Based on Committees 
he was part of he was probably in the top 4 most powerful 
merchants who supported the king.Of his early life nothing 
seems to be known. He first appears as a merchant in 1650 
trading with Nevis and Montserrat, and in the next few years 
he extended his operations to New England, Virginia, the 
other West India islands, and the Mediterranean. His ships 
trafficked in a great variety of commodities — iron, hemp, 
pitch, tar, flax, potashes, cables, fish, cocoa, tobacco, 
etc., and he became a power in London, his place of business 
in Old Jewry being the resort of merchants, ship captains, 
and persons desiring to cooperate in his ventures. 

He was an alderman as early as 
1651, was placed a little later on the commission for 
securing the peace of the city, and held other offices by 
appointment of the city or of the Common- wealth. He was 
also a member of the East India Company and influential in 
its councils. In addition to his mercantile interests he 
became a farmer (took revenue receipts), first of the 
inland and foreign post-office, — one writer speaking of 
him as "the postmaster," — and later, on a large scale, 
of customs and excise. At one time or another he held 
the farm of the customs in general and of the excise of 
salt, linen, silk mercery, and wines in particular. In 
these capacities he acted as a banker of the government, 
paying salaries and expenses of official appointees, 
advancing loans, and issuing bills of exchange and 
letters of credit. His vessels carried letters of marque 
during the Dutch war and the war with 
Spain, and he himself traded in prizes and became one of 
the commissioners of prize goods. The Jamaican 
expeditions of 1654 and afterward gave him an 
opportunity to become a contractor and he organized a 
committee in London for the purpose of financiering the 
expedition, himself advancing 16,000 pounds , and in 
company with Capts. Alderne, Watts, and others 
contracted for the supplies of the ships and soldiers, 
furnishing utensils, clothing, bedding, and provisions 
for this and other expeditions, notably that to Flinders. 
He was Gen. Venables' personal agent in London and agent 
for the army in general in Jamaica. He also became a 
contractor for transporting vagrants, prisoners, and 
others to various American plantations. These 
accumulating ventures increased his interest in the 
colonies, and after the capture of Jamaica in 1655 he 
obtained a grant of 20,000 acres in that island, from 
which he created several plantations. In his new 
capacity as planter he was constantly engaged in shipping 
servants, supplies, and horses. 

The firm of Martin Noell & Company 
became exceedingly prosperous, and Noell himself one of 
the mainstays of the government. He became a member of 
the Trade Committee in 1655, of the committee for Jamaica 
in 1656, and was frequently called in by the Council of 
State to offer advice or to give information. He was 
on terms of intimacy with Cromwell, and because of the 
Protector's friendship for him and confidence in his 
judgment, his recommendations for office, both in England
and the colonies had great weight. Povey speaks of the 
"extraordinary favor allowed him (Noell) by his Highness." 
He had a brother, Thomas Noell, who was prominent in 
Barbados and Surinam and in charge of his interests there. 
He was also represented in other islands by agents and 
factors, of whom Edward Bradbourne was the most 
conspicuous, while Major Richard Povey in Jamaica, and 
William Povey in Barbados, brothers of Thomas Povey, had 
for a time charge of his plantations in those islands. 
Noell indirectly played no small part in politics, 
particularly of Barbados, where Governor Searle held 
office largely through his influence.

Besides his Jamaica holdings he had estates at Wexford 
in Ireland, and in April, 1658, wrote to Henry Cromwell 
that he had " transplanted much of his interest and 
affairs and relations " to that country, seeming to 
indicate thereby that his colonial ventures were not 
prospering satisfactorily. Noell was a politic man, 
shrewd and diplomatic, asserting his loyalty to the 
house of Cromwell, yet becoming a trusty subject of King 
Charles, from whom he afterward received knighthood.^ 
Noell was honored ; he became a member of the Royal 
Company of Merchants, the Royal African Company, the 
Society for the Propagation of the Gospel in New England, 
and was finally knighted in 1663 and died 
in 1665.^ As we shall see, both men became very active 
in the affairs of the plantations, and it is more than 
likely that the opinions of the King in Council were not 
infrequently shaped by their suggestions and 
advice. 

Professor Osgood thinks that a part of Noell's fortune 
was made in the slave trade. Beyond the fact that he was 
a member of the Royal African Company, I cannot find any 
evidence whatever to prove this statement. Noell certainly 
was not a slave trader before 1660.

STAFFORDSHIRE MEMBERS OF PARLIAMENT. 

Martin Noel   was Assessment Commissioner for London and 
Staffordshire 1656 ; for Gloucestershire also 1657; 
elected Alderman of London 3 December 1657 ; discharged 
15 December 1657 on a fine of 520. He was knighted at 
Whitehall, 2 September 1662. Noel was on the Committee 
of East India Company 1657-9. He died about September 1665 
of the plague; his wife died shortly after him. Pepys 
describes him, September 1662, as "certainly a very useful 
man." His Will was proved in P.C.C. His eldest son Martin 
was also knighted in November 1665.* He seems to have 
begun as a shipowner, contractor and moneylender. Letters 
of Marque were granted to him in 1651 ; he appears as a 
shipowner in 1652 and 1653. As a merchant of London he had 
licence to import tar and hemp, iron, potash 
and cable in 1653. He contracted to carry the Posts 1653; 
and advanced 16,000 pounds to the State in 1654.* At his 
death he held (jointly) the sinecure of Secretary to the 
Barbados. 

A writer, about 1720, says of him : 
" Martin Noel, who was born in this town (Stafford), was 
bred a scrivener in London, and being a person of Devotion, 
built a fair hospital in this his Native Place, and 
bountifully endowed it. This gentleman's charity is
the more to be remember 'd because 'tis said his 
Foundation was the first considerable Fabrick of that 
nature in this County ; but 'tis hoped his zeal may 
provoke many, not only here but in other Counties. He was 
living in 1660, and saw the Fruits of his Goodness with 
Comfort." A number of Noels in 
the Royal African Company 1663:

http://www.genealogy-quest.com/collections/rac.html

The appearance of Martin Noell:

Martin Noell headed a merchant grouping with fewer connections with

aristocrats, and became influential in West Indies business. He was also a

friend of William Courteen, the financier who had did much from 1625 to

create the original establishment on Barbados. (I assume this is the same

Sir Martin Noel referred to in Pares’ book, Merchants and Planters.)

Noel was a merchant, MP for Bossiney (1658), Trevena and Tintagel;

(a rotten borough) and married a rich widow

Fraser, in her book, Cromwell, p. 534, suggests Noell was knighted

by Charles II, but died bankrupt.

WILL of SIR MARTIN NOEL,  
Kx., dated 23 September 1665 ; 
proved in P.C.C. 6 October 1665 by Thomas Noel and George 
Robinson. 
He was living in the mansion house of St. Botolph's, 
Bishopsgate.

To his children Nathaniell, Theodorus, Grace and Elizabeth he 
leaves his half of the plantation of Hornehall in the Barbadoes 
with the slaves. To his son James he leaves his half of the 
office of Secretary to the Governor and Council *of Barbadoes 
with the disposal of the clerkship to the same. To his son 
Thomas his half of the farm of the Additional duties under the 
English Land Tax. To his widow Elizabeth he leaves 100 pounds 
per ann. out of his farm of the duties on timber, glass, stone 
and stoneware. He mentions his brother Thomas Noel of Surrannam 
(Surinam), and the reversions bought from the Hon. Edward 
Noell, son and heir to Lord Cambden. To his son and heir Martin 
all his lands in Staffordshire, in Tipperary and elsewhere in 
Ireland, the Barony of Gary in Ireland, and his half 
of the farm (receipts) of the Irish -Customs and Excise.  
Residue to wife, to the 5 younger children, & to brothers 
Matthew Noel and Thomas Noel, sisters Jane Blake and Atherton, 
Martha wife of his son Thomas, cousin Mary Harries, widow, 
sister Anne Egginton, friends Sir George Smith and Capt. Buckner  
Exors. : Sons Martin and Thomas, and Mr. George Robinson. 
Overseers : Brother Mr. George Blake and Mr. Maswin.(120 Hyde.)  
4 Shaw, Knights. 6 Cal. Pap. Dom.

The Noel Brothers in the Caribbean:

Noel Brothers Barbados

Martin Noell Caribbean

Noel Martin & Bros

East India co Matthew Nowell and Martin Noel pgs.  36,41,42,340,373

http://archive.org/stream/courtcalendar00eastrich#page/394/mode/2up

East India Co – Matthew Nowell and James Noell a Factor of the Madras Agency died October 30, 1662.

http://archive.org/stream/englishfactories11fost/englishfactories11fost_djvu.txt

Martin Noel’s holdings in Ireland

Martin Noel Ireland

http://archive.org/stream/somehistoricaln00meagoog/somehistoricaln00meagoog_djvu.txt

1656 – 1661 Royalists Exiles to Barbados.

20 December 1661 – John COLE of Stepney, Middlesex, mariner, age 39, and late

Commander of the “John” of London, deposed in the Mayor’s Court of London at the

request of Colonel MARSELLIS rivers and others, that in March 1656/6 Captain Henry

HATSILL, merchant, transported prisoners to Barbados for his account and that of

Captain thomas ALDERNE and Mr. Martin NOEL. Enclosed with the deposition is a

copy of the original bill of lading listing the prisoners [named below] to which is

appended the following note:

Signed by Capt. Thomas ALDERNE, M[ast]r. Marten NOELL & Capt. Henry HATSELL

on board the good shipp called the “John” of London, John COLE Commander, & now

rideing at Anchor in the Sound of Plymouth bound to the Island of Barbados, to say

eighty one servants above mentioned which are to be delivered at the afore said porte of

Barbados, the danger of the seas & Mortality Excepted, unto the said John COLE, the

fraight for the said servants being already paid by us, & so God send the ships to har

disired porte. Dated at Plymouth 17th March 1655.
per me John COLE

Author’s note: “A marginal note states that 80 men and one youth are to be disposed

of in Barbados at the best rate in exchange for commodities. Captain John COLE is to

have factorage at the rate of six percent.”

Martin Noel miscellaneous

 

Thomas Noel

Christened as a son of Edward and Grace of Stafford

Thomas Norvell/Noell, large sugar plantation owner and slave owner

in Barbados (where he was Secretary),

brother of Sir Martin Noel) married Thomasine Hillard in the mid 1600

1674 Circa: Names of interest on roads out from Barbados Bridgetown by Carlisle Bay,

Newell and Guy,(a business?)

 

Matthew Noel

Christened on 27 Dec 1612 a son of Edward and Grace of Stafford.

Mathew  was called a Factor in his PCC will.

Matthew Nowell married Maria Leadbeater on 9 October 1642

DUBLIN (COI) , Parish/Church/Congregation – ST. JOHN

COURT MINUTES, ETC., OF THE EAST INDIA COMPANY  1650

An account is presented of the estate of the late Matthew Nowell,
a factor deceased at Bantam, showing that there is due to him 1,085 pounds .
whereof 350 pounds has been paid to his mother as executrix ; the Court,
conceiving that Nowell must have been a great private trader to
have amassed so large an estate in so short a time, and many-
calicoes having been found in his possession at his death, resolves to
impose a fine, and orders 400/. to be paid to his mother, in addition
to what she has already received, in full of all demands. This she
willingly consents to.

http://www.britishempire.co.uk/maproom/bantam.htm

 

James Noel

Participated in the Barbados land purchases with his brothers and later was a factor in India until his death in 1662.

 

Stephen Noel

It seems he was in Barbados with Thomas but died young:

Martin Noel brothers Thomas Steve

Sources:

http://archive.org/stream/britishcommittee00andruoft/britishcommittee00andruoft_djvu.txt

http://www.danbyrnes.com.au/business/business8.html 

http://www.merchantnetworks.com.au/timelines/timelines0.htm

http://archive.org/stream/collectionsfor2022stafuoft/collectionsfor2022stafuoft_djvu.txt

http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.ancestry.com/~pillagoda/ch13-02.htm

The Newell Family of Bareneed

John Philip Newell has started a website documenting his research. I would recommend folks check there for his current information on the Newells from the Dock:

johnpnewell.com .

I think the new information on the Trinity/Bonavista Newells potentially has some significance for the ancestry of James Newell:

Thomas Cole had found a number of Newell references which I also wanted to include. The descendants chart was possible because of legal proceedings over land rights amongst Newell family members. In stating his case Jonah Newell explicitly went through the relevant members of his family to show that there were no other claims from his father’s siblings who had all died with no wills. Likewise he showed that there were no descendants of these male siblings. In fact he seems to have perjured himself, probably unknowingly, as Thomas III had indeed left a will in Poole. Is it possible there were descendants in Poole who went unrecognized as well? I could find no clear information indicating such a case. Since all the potential claimants from Jonah’s side have been dealt with, any stray Newells remaining were likely from the opposing side in the dispute – the descendants of James Newell. Thomas Cole has identified 3 siblings I think. It seems some of his information comes from his work on the Abbott family. Some of his sources are not readily apparent to me. The reference to William Newell was a very brief one. I wondered if it could have been the as yet unidentified brother of James.

What this exercise does is provide a possible connection point for the various Noel/Newell lines across Newfoundland. Nicholas Newell indicated in the Quidi Vidi census of 1794 that his family had been in Newfoundland more than 100 years. This would be true if he connected to one of the James Newell lines. James Newell of Bareneed could fit in nicely if he was named after his grandfather. Nicholas Newell had a Port de Grave connection through his wife and possibly they were brothers. Joseph Noel in St John’s would fit this time frame . Clement Noel of Freshwater would also fit. The bulk of his oral history, however, points to Jersey.

 

A Brief Summary from a Walter Batten Post

Please check and do your own research.

The earliest Newells at the Dock(near Bareneed) were James and Ann.

They had Philip and Mary.

Philips children were James c1786 and John c1793.

James children: Philip, Richard, Elizabeth, Abraham, James.

Philip of James sr. had John and George.

James had Joseph,

Abraham had Abraham jr and Robert.

John had Richard,John jr, Nathaniel, Henry, Philip, Wm. Henry, Amy, Maryann and
Grace

John Jr. had Albert,Henry,Patience, Maryann,Elizabeth, Edith and Eliza.

Nathaniel had Nathan, John, Harold, Clement, Ruth.

Henry had John, Mary and Grace.

Frances Newell nee Mugford and the Port de Grave Connection

Mugford Family

An update on Nicholas Newell and Frances Mugford from Walter Batten: Aug 5, 1817 Superior Court St. John’s.

Nicholas Newell, St. John’s Planter Memorial. Married Frances, the eldest daughter of the late Robert Mugford of Port de Grave , Planter deceased. The Mugford Will in 1772 left land there to his wife Ann and then to his daughterFrances. Mugford died about 1794. His will:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-mugford-robert-7-168.shtml

His widow died in 1813. She had leased the property for 31 years to John Walsh who assigned it to Pete MacPherson who now would not pay.Sep 15, 1817. Continuation of Case. Frances claimed the property and won.

I believe Nicholas Newell represents the start of the Pouch Cove Newells. He entered into a rental agrrement for the Port de Grave property of his deceased father-in-law. That being the case I would expect that he himself could have joined his sons in Pouch Cove from Quidi Vidi.

After his death though Frances was living in St John’s in 1836.

Nicholas Newell-Walsh rental ag

transcription:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-walsh-john-newell-nicholas.shtml

His sons however seemed to have relocated to Pouch Cove circa 1800.

Neil/Knill in Bryant’s Cove

Eric Neil has done extensive work on his family tree confirmed by DNA and shown that the Neils of Bryant’s Cove are descendants of the Knill family of Devon.

Some Notes from Eric Neil

My Family Line was established in Bryants Cove in the mid 1700’s By Humphrey and Mary Knill.

My connection to this line has been confirmed through both a paper trail and YDNA testing.

The Neils of Spaniards Bay and the Neils of Bryant’s Cove share the same  Knill lineage.

This also has been confirmed through YDNA testing.

We have a match between the Neils of Bryants Cove , Spaniards Bay and a cousin in England.

There is no doubt at this point.
The Family Line has been traced back to Bishopsteignton, Devon, England, where Henry Nill and Sidwill Snill were married October 26, 1668.

They had the following children:

John  1669

Joseph1671

Bartholomew 1673

Humphrey 1676

Elizabeth 1680

All these names repeat through generation after generation. My Bryant’s Cove line has Joseph, John,  Elizabeth and the Spaniards Bay line has Humphrey and Bartholomew.

In 1697 Joseph married Mary Bickford (born April 13, 1680, Stock Flemming).
We believe this Joseph Knill was fishing out of Bay of Bulls in 1709. I do believe this is the earliest record we have of our family visiting Newfoundland.

https://noelhistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/1709-st-johns-area-residents.pdf

The baptismal records from Harbour Grace are here:

8 Jan 1784	child	Humphrey & Mary	Knill	Joseph
8 Jan 1784	child	Humphrey & Mary	Knill	Richard
8 Jan 1784	child	Humphrey & Mary	Knill	Humphrey
8 Jan 1784	child	Humphrey & Mary	Knill	Joanna
8 Jan 1784	child	Humphrey & Mary	Knill	Elizabeth

http://nl.canadagenweb.org/cbhg_hg_bap_1784.htm

George Neil’s son Bartholomew moved from Bryant’s Cove to Spaniard’s Bay.

Richard Knill born in Newfoundland, North America and came to England when he was 21 to spend the winters in West Teignmouth with friends.  He spent the summers in Newfoundland. In the winter of 1801 he married.  He changed his residence to Kingsteighton.

Brigus Noels

John Noel’s house at Riverhead, Brigus c. 1810 located on
the corner of Antle’s Beach and John Noel’s Hill

more on the house here:

http://www.odeasauctionroom.nfld.net/brigus/brigus.htm

Speculative Structure of the Noel Family Tree in Brigus

I have tried to assemble the Brigus records I have into a Family Tree. This has necessitated many assumptions and no doubt will incorporate many errors. I believe it will be helpful as an overview but should not be put out as factual except in pieces where specific records have been reviewed. I have made the head of this family Abram Erel who died in 1805. That in itself is extremely speculative but would fit into a larger Noel picture and perhaps a son Isaac in Burnthead. Take this with a big grain of salt…….Perhaps this excercise will help those taking the Family Finder DNA test. It seems to be very helpful in identifying relationships once family trees are in place to connect the dots.

Family Tree link here:

Brigus Noels

In this case the 3 brothers which Ted Newell referred to below could be James of Bareneed, Nicholas whose sons landed in Pouch Cove and Abram Erel of Burnthead. Very Speculative. I believe however that they were sons or brothers of Clement Noel based on my Harbour Grace Noel DNA match with the Bareneed line.

Parish Records

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Parish/brold-brigusbdm.shtml

Family	Individual	Parents	Month	Date	Year	Minister /   Clergy	Notes
Erel	Abram	(Noel,Best, or Lush????? PN)	May	19	1805	John   Percy	(Bur)
Nile	John		Feb	5	1806	John   Percy	(Bur)
Noel	Stephen	John   & Mary	July	9	1807	John   Percy	(Bap)
Noel	Stephen	John   & Mary	July	15	1807	John   Percy	(Bur)
Penny	John	Robert   & Charlotte Newell	Mar	14	1813	John   Percy	(Bap)
Penny	Nathan	Robert   & Charlotte Newell	July	20	1823	John   Haigh
Penny	missing	Robert   & Charlotte Nouel	Dec	12	1810	John   Percy	(Bap)
Penny	John	Robert   & Charlotte Noule	Mar	14	1813	John   Percy	(Bap)
Penny	missing	Robert   & Charlotte Nouel	June	11	1815	John   Percy	(Bap)
Sparks	James	Ambrose   & Ann (Noel)	Oct	6	1806	John   Percy	(Bap)
Sparks	James	Ambrose   & Ann (Noel)	Oct	8	1806	John   Percy	(Bur)
Sparks	missing	Ambrose   & Ann Noul	May	23	1810	John   Percy	(Bap)
Sparks	James	Ambrose   & Ann Noel	Oct	8	1806	John   Percy	(Bur)
Sparks	daughter	Ambrose   & Ann Noel	Apr	12	1818	John   Percy	(Bur)
Noel	Mary   Ann	Robert   Cribb & ???	Nov	5	1824	Richard   Knight	(Bap)
Noel	Elizabeth	John   & Ann	Dec	5	1824	Richard   Knight	(Bap)
Noel	Stephen	John   & Ann	Dec	4	1826	Richard   Knight	(Bap)
Noel	Mary   Ann	John   & Ann	Nov	1	1829
Newell	Ruth   Louisa	James   Hy. & Mary Ann	July	5	1864	C.   Combden
Newell	William   Roberts	James   Hy. & Mary Ann	Nov	17	1866	W.E.   Shenstone
Newell	Thomas   Mercer	James   Hy. & Mary Ann	July	9	1870	Rev.   Waterhouse
Newell	Agnes	Stephen   & Ann Eliza	May	17	1856	J.   S. Phinney
Newell	William   John	Stephen   & Eliza	Nov	14	1857	Rev.   Sprague
Newell	Louisa	Stephen   & Ann Eliza	Nov	25	1859	C.   Combden
Newell	Patience   Antle	Stephen   & Ann Eliza	Sept	26	1861	C.   Combden
Noel	Diana	Abraham   & Frances	July	8	1869	Rev.   Waterhouse
Newell	Agnes	John   & Elizabeth	Mar	6	1866	W.E.   Shenstone
Newell	Emeline	John   & Elizabeth	July	2	1871	J.   S. Peach
Noel	Anne   Elizabeth	John   & Elizabeth	July	15	1868	Rev.   Waterhouse
Noel	Ann   Eliza	John   & Elizabeth	July	15	1869	Rev.   Waterhouse

more baptisms:

Brigus baptisms

Brigus United Methodist Church Marriages

Richard Rose & Elizabeth Noel                      Oct. 31 1868

John Newell & Elizabeth Mead                      Nov. 29 1860

James Henry Newell & Mary Ann Mercer     Dec. 5 1861

Abraham Newell & Fanny Rose                     June 13 1866

Inhabitants in the Harbour of Brigues & Cupids Ending September 27th, 1817

No	Housekeeper Name	Man	Woman	Children	M Servants	Supplier Name	Means of   Providing
69	John   Nuhe	1	1	6	2	W Kemp	Distressed
78	Mrs   Noyer		1	7		W Kemp	Distressed
68	Isack   Nule	1	1	5	1	W   Kemp	Distressed

Note 1 Nuhe should be Noel as his neighbour is William Antle Jr and the house above is built

Note 2 The name Noyer appears in NFLD but so rarely I believe that this is a Noel family as well.

Note 3 Isack in Cupids probably Burnthead

1835 Voter’s List

NEWELL, John	Brigus	River Head
NEWELL, James	Brigus	River Head
NEWELL, William	Burnt Head
NEWELL, George	Burnt Head

Burnt Head Baptisms & Marriages  1860 -1891 (some North River)

Burnthead Bapt

Burnt Head Death Registers

Burnthead deaths

Burnt Head Tree (in-process)

Thanks to Lori Ann of LARC’s Genes for this information

Burnt Head Tree

Sgt Samuel Newell of Burnt Head

http://www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/searches/soldierDetail.asp?Id=34836

Lovell’s 1871 – Burnt Head

Newell Isaac, fisherman
Newell John, fisherman
Newel Robert
Newel George, fisherman

Brigus Past Glory, Present Splendour” by John Northway Leamon

Newell	pages 281, 294
Newell	77
Noel & Nule, John	73, 74, 75, 77

anyone can do a lookup?

Children of REBECCA MUNDEN(b ca 1786) and MICHAEL WAY are:

(early spelling can be Whey)

i.

ANN8 WAY B ca 1820, ; m. NOEL; Unknown.

Pouch Cove Newells – Nicholas Newell the Start

I think the new information on the Trinity/Bonavista Newells potentially has some significance for the ancestry of Nicholas Newel:

Thomas Cole had found a number of Newell references which I also wanted to include. The descendants chart was possible because of legal proceedings over land rights amongst Newell family members. In stating his case Jonah Newell explicitly went through the relevant members of his family to show that there were no other claims from his father’s siblings who had all died with no wills. Likewise he showed that there were no descendants of these male siblings. In fact he seems to have perjured himself, probably unknowingly, as Thomas III had indeed left a will in Poole. Is it possible there were descendants in Poole who went unrecognized as well? I could find no clear information indicating such a case. Since all the potential claimants from Jonah’s side have been dealt with, any stray Newells remaining were likely from the opposing side in the dispute – the descendants of James Newell. Thomas Cole has identified 3 siblings I think. It seems some of his information comes from his work on the Abbott family. Some of his sources are not readily apparent to me. The reference to William Newell was a very brief one. I wondered if it could have been the as yet unidentified brother of James.

What this exercise does is provide a possible connection point for the various Noel/Newell lines across Newfoundland. Nicholas Newell indicated in the Quidi Vidi census of 1794 that his family had been in Newfoundland more than 100 years. This would be true if he connected to one of the James Newell lines. James Newell of Bareneed could fit in nicely if he was named after his grandfather. Nicholas Newell had a Port de Grave connection through his wife and possibly they were brothers. Joseph Noel in St John’s would fit this time frame . Clement Noel of Freshwater would also fit. The bulk of his oral history, however, points to Jersey.

Some new Tidbits – August 1, 2013

There was  another Frances Mugford Newell  – from a researcher:

I came across your Newell page and I was wondering if you have parents for Frances Mugford Newell born in Pouch Cove abt. September 20, 1855 (according to the 1901 Quebec census), She was married to Francis Latimore Morris who was born in St. John’s.

On NGB message board:

The only info on Julia Ann Newell’s ancestors is her father was James Newell and her mother Matilda. You probably know that Julia was born in 1859 and died 25 February 1951. (She married Valentine Butler)

Given the proximity of Torbay, it is possible that Mary Ann Noel below is from the Pouch Cove Newells.

From another researcher this family rhyme:

First, my mother’s people are descended from the Newell’s of Pouch Cove – my g-grandmother was Caroline Newell, daughter of Jacob and Caroline Newell.  I have a little poem about her family that was passed on to me by my mother, and looking at the records on your website I think I have figured out who all the people are.

Poem about Nanny’s family (Newell), written out by my mother:

“Polly, Emily, Billy, Rich
Silent Tim, Beat and Sis
Jake, Joe, Suse and Sal
Abe and Low
Bess and Cal”

According to Mom,
Jake = Nanny’s father Jacob Newell
Joe = Nanny’s uncle
Suse = Nanny’s mother, Susanna Evans
Sal = Uncle Joe’s wife
Cal = Caroline (Nanny herself)

Low may be short for Apollos – Mom thinks she might have had a great uncle Apollos (confirmed by parish records, Jacob and Caroline had a son Apollos).

Jacob and Caroline also had an Elizabeth, so Bess is Caroline’s sister.

Frances Newell nee Mugford and the Port de Grave Connection

Mugford Family

An update on Nicholas Newell and Frances Mugford from Walter Batten:
Aug 5, 1817
Superior Court
St. John’s.

Nicholas Newell, St. John’s Planter Memorial. Married Frances, the eldest daughter of the late Robert Mugford of Port de Grave , Planter deceased. The Mugford Will in 1772 left land there to his wife Ann and then to his daughterFrances. Mugford died about 1794. His will:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-mugford-robert-7-168.shtml

His widow died in 1813. She had leased the property for 31 years to John Walsh who assigned it to Pete MacPherson who now would not pay.Sep 15, 1817. Continuation of Case. Frances claimed the property and won.

I believe Nicholas Newell represents the start of the Pouch Cove Newells. He entered into a rental agrrement for the Port de Grave property of his deceased father-in-law. That being the case I would expect that he himself could have joined his sons in Pouch Cove from Quidi Vidi.

After his death though Frances was living in St John’s in 1836.

Nicholas Newell-Walsh rental ag

transcription:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-walsh-john-newell-nicholas.shtml

His sons however seemed to have relocated to Pouch Cove circa 1800.

Nicholas Newell has turned into a most interesting character. He made the 1794 census in Quidi Vidi. His wife’s estate was in dispute and clear records were left about his family. He left a contractual document. There is a reference to a Port de Grave property in the family. If that was not enough……there are 2 versions of the 1794 census posted that are not identical. The one I was using lists him as born in Newfoundland. The other one puts 99 years for how long resident. I take this to mean his family has been in Newfoundland for more than 100 years. This puts the Noels/Newells back to the late 1600′s assuming DNA continues to indicate a connection for various lines. I hope I am interpreting this right, I could not find a clear answer online.

I think I was already heading to that conclusion. Clement Noel/Newells are scarce in England. Clement with the Jersey influence and an early Clement surname, is more common in Newfoundland. The door remains open for ties to the Trinity Newells and also some early St. John’s records. There is also Richard Newell in the Port de Grave area (Cupid’s) in 1623.

Carbonear Noel/Newells spread out?

Ted Newell of Bareneed recorded:

James Newell of Bareneed b ca 1740 does not fit – back to work

Nicholas Newell of Pouch Cove b ca 1755 (had land in Port De Grave District)

Isaac Noel of Burnthead b ca 1765

Daniel Noel to Grate’s Cove b ca 1775

The first indication I can see so far of a Newell in Pouch Cove, is the Abigail Newell marriage in 1806. I would expect they would be well-settled at this point.

Nicholas Newell was a stray first picked up in Harbour Grace in 1785. We have Nicholas and Frances records for 2 children nearly 20 years apart.

Newal	John	Nicolas   & Frances		29 May   1785	St Paul’s, Harbour Grace
Newell	George	Nicolas & Frances	by Rev. John Jones	15 Jan 1804	1st Congregational,   St John’s

In 1794 he appears in the census of Quidi Vidi.  The family consists of Nicholas and Frances. They have 3 boys and 1 girl with them. Frances’s estate papers of 1838 indicate 7 children John, Nicholas, Robert, George, Abigail, Anne and Margaret. The sons are descibed as surviving sons. I think this infers that Elijah was a son but has died. The papers also indicate she had a property in Port de Grave. It is possible Daniel was a son and either he or Elijah had moved away to work.

Various estate documents here:

Frances Newell 2

Nicholas Newell Jr estate

Newell Estate documents transcribed here (including Richard and Isaac):

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/1estate-n-idx.shtml

In 1830, widower Nicholas Newell Jr  of Pouch Cove marries  widow Anne (Anastatia) Roberts of Adam’s Cove; not too far from Freshwater & Carbonear. She may be related to Jane Roberts who married George Newell in St John’s and died at 35 in 1834.  Clement of Freshwater had a daughter Elizabeth Hudson in Adam’s Cove who died in 1797.  This leads me to believe that Nicholas was possibly from Carbonear, a son of Clement of Freshwater born ca 1725. There is oral history that says Clement was an Englishman.

Nicholas Sr or Frances secured property in Port de Grave at some point. I believe thet Nicholas` sons moved from Quidi Vidi to Pouch Cove between 1794 and 1805. There his son Robert (no birth record) started his family and Abigail and Anne his daughters lived as well.

Nicholas Newell Descendants Chart link:

Nicholas Newell

William Newell b ca 1828 of Pouch Cove/St John’s

R. Stanley has very good info on this line. He believes this line ties to Poole.

I have started an Isaac Newell tree:

Isaac Tree

Misc Records Updated Dec 29th

Pouch Cove Marriages

Vital Stat Births

Pouch Cove Voters Lists

James Newell 1870, Pouch Cove

Apollos Newell 1890

Jacob S Newell

Julia Ann of Jacob & Sus 1894 n

John Thomas newell 1880 of John and Jane

William T Newell border

Misc Records Updated Jan 1 2013

Vital Stats marriages

Noseworthy pouch cove 2

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I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE OF THE FAMILY WHO CAN HELP ME

COMPLETE THE VARIOUS FAMILY LINES – THANX

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Re: Newell Family

dcroughwell1  From Message Board 2001

Greatgrandmother Jane Newell Baldwin, nee April 6, 1864, Pouch Cove, Nfld., Canada. Parents: James Newell & Mary Jane Cox, but no info on them. She married John Baldwin also of Pouch Cove, 1888 xmas eve. They immigrated to US, New Hampshire in 1911. Do not know anything about her siblings. Went to Pouch Cove this summer, only info was from a Samuel Newell who stated the Newells were from Wales.

A Strange Record

Nikolaus Knoell in 1783, Newfoundland, Canada

Hessian Troops in the American War for Independence: An Index According to Surname and Hanau Regiment. Date and place of entry in unit books. Year of birth, place of origin, rank, unit, category of presentation, and archive code of the source are also provided (ancestry.com). Seems to conflict with other data.

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