Knill name in Newfoundland and Origins

A researcher recently pointed out a family group that Eric Neil and I had passed over.

The Knills of Harbour Grace below have been proven to match a family from Exeter, Devon through the YDNA test. This family became the Joseph Neil line of Bryant’s Cove.

The baptismal records from Harbour Grace are here:

8 Jan 1784 child Humphrey & Mary Knill Joseph
8 Jan 1784 child Humphrey & Mary Knill Richard
8 Jan 1784 child Humphrey & Mary Knill Humphrey
8 Jan 1784 child Humphrey & Mary Knill Joanna
8 Jan 1784 child Humphrey & Mary Knill Elizabeth

http://nl.canadagenweb.org/cbhg_hg_bap_1784.htm

The question has been raised whether Joseph Knill (Neil) born in Harbour Grace was related to George Neil of Bryant’s Cove. A good question…….

Oral history though, states there is a complete separation of the 2 family lines. Hopefully this can be proved through further DNA testing.

George Neil’s son Bartholomew moved to Spaniard’s Bay where he named his son Humphrey.

Also this burial must be tied-in:

26 Dec 1798 Humphry Neal about 20 yr of Brians Cove

Eric has a record of Joanna marrying William Ryal of St. John’s December 2, 1807.

A return from the Commissioners for the Relief of the Poor of Harbour Grace Division, from 1848.

Humphrey Neal I.M. – 75 lbs, Mol – 2 gal. Lab – 5 dys @ 2s

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/har-newfoundland-journal-poor-hr-grace-1848.shtml

Some data was gathered on the Knills

A Joseph Knill was recorded in 1709 in Bay Bulls:

https://noelhistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/1709-st-johns-area-residents.pdf

Seary also records him in St John’s the same year but I cannot find the record.

In the same area at Renews Thomas Cole discussed the connection of Joanne Knill

of Bishopsteignton to the Whitborn family there:

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from that discussion of the firm of William Cole & Thomas Whitborn Jr at Renews 1759 :

Correct – it would not necessarily follow that he was a young man – but I am thinking in terms of the fact that his father was named Thomas [that is Thomas who married Joanne Knill].

Now the father of Thomas [snr] [he who married Joanne] was a son of Richard Whitborne [b] 02 May 1692 and who on 25 Feb 1723 married Katherine Allen.

So there we have the three generations –
Richard/Thomas/Thomas. It is not unlikely of course that Thomas [jnr] was
learning the trade – Sir Richard Whitbourne [his about 4xggf] first learned his
seamanship as a boy with I believe “Master Cotton of Poole”.
Anyway, should you at any time turn up information on that line I would
appreciate same………

………..Good Morning Thomas – and not sure who this particular Thomas may be.

I have Thomas [b] 16 Jan 1725 Bishopsteignton and who married 03 Mar 1746 Joanne Knill. He is a direct descendant of Sir Richard Whitbourn [1561-1635] and who settled the Newfoundland fishing disputes by Admiralty Commission in 1615.

They had a son Thomas [b] 25 Apr 1748 Bishopsteignton and [d] 01 Apr 1802 West Teignmouth. If that is the Thomas Whitborn [jnr] n question he would only have been 11years of age in 1759.

http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/NFLD-LAB/2005-06/1118105872
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Setttlement record in the Parish of Kingsteighton, Devon:

Richard Knill born in Newfoundland, North America and came to England when he was 21 to spend the winters in West Teignmouth with friends.  He spent the summers in Newfoundland. In the winter of 1801 he married.  He changed his residence to Kingsteighton.

Note  West Teignmouth would border Bishopsteignton

Sworn at Wolbourough.

2565 A/PO 51/24  1802

removal order Devon (not sure if same Richard)
Mary Knill, wife of Richard and Richard, 13, Mary Ann, 10, Elizabeth, 7 and Diana, 3, her children to Ashcombe  2565 A/PO 29/33  1816
Ideford map
1832 Quebec ships
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May 23 bark Westmoreland Knill 05 April Hull to D. Fraser / in ballast
Looking for Humphrey Knill in Devon.
2 possibilities were found fairly quickly. One bordering Teignmouth and one in Tawstuck, North Devon.
Based on Richard’s return location the families within 10 km of Teignmouth are worth a closer look. Some records:
IDEFORD, DEVON (from LDS)
Child Parents Christening Date
George Humphery & Ann   Knill 25 oct 1778
Mary Humphery & Ann Knill 22 Apr 1781
Elizabeth Humphery & Ann Knill 13 Jul 1783
Richard Humphery & Ann   Knill 06 Aug 1786
William Humphery & Ann Knill 01 Jan 1789
Susanne Humphery & Ann Knill 03 Mar 1793
Sarah Humphery & Ann Knill 31 Jan 1790
Humphrey Humphery & Mary Knill 15 Oct 1754
Further notes on Knills:
Wills:
Knill Henry Teington Epi. [Bishopsteignton] DEV 1681 A le ECCE FRYB A.
Knill Henry Teington Epi. [Bishopsteignton] DEV 1682 W? le ECCE FRYB C.
Knill Henry Bishops Steignton [Bishopsteignton?] DEV esq 1770 W le MISC Coleman – vol. 45, Item 472, p. 20 attested copy
Knill Henry Bishopsteignton DEV yeoman 1778 W co PCC PROB 11 1046
Knill John Teington Episcopi [Bishopsteignton] DEV 1731 A le ECCE FRYB A.
Knill Joseph Bishopsteignton DEV 1812 W co IRW K 273
Knill Mary Teington Bishop [Bishopsteignton] DEV 1749 A le ECCE FRYB A.
Knill Mary Bishopsteignton DEV 1833 W co IRW K 274
Knill Sibella Teington Epi. [Bishopsteignton] DEV 1714 W le ECCE FRYB t.
This family is concurrent with the Harbour Grace family (possibly cousins?).
Knills in West Teignmouth
Devon and Exeter Oath Rolls, 1723

http://www.foda.org.uk/oaths/QS17/2/1/4.htm

Humphrey Knill of Bishopsteignton [Signed]

http://www.foda.org.uk/oaths/QS17/2/5/1c.htm

Henry Knill of Bishopsteignton [Signed

Devon Freeholders 1780

 http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Freeholders/Documents1780.html

Richard Knill yeoman Exminster Bishopsteignton

 Joseph Knill of Bishopsteignton, Devon. [no title] 1078/IRW/K/274 1833

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North Devon Knills:
Thanks to Genforum and David Pike for some digging……
Posted by: David Knill Date: April 14, 2000 at 20:51:26

I am looking for the parents of Humphrey Knill of Tawstock Devonshire England. Married Catherine, Humphrey died on June 7, 1688 Cathrine died on April 8, 1677. they had the following children:
1. Cathrine Knill b.1651 d.1658
2. John Knill b.1654 m.1677 Rachel Gwinup
3. Rachel Knill b.1656
4. Cathrine Knill b.1659 d.1660
5. Humphrey Knill b.1661

Most of the Knills seem to be from that area of North Devon. A good history here by
Peter R. Newcombe :
unfortunately it looks like his branch is not the one with the Humphreys.

About Humphrey Knill on the GENI website

http://www.geni.com/people/Humphrey-Knill/6000000009948468456

“Anthony, I checked the microfiche for KNILL entries up to about 1670. Records of this age can be very difficult to read. As well, records were poorly kept during the English Civil War and following Commonwealth period. I did, however, find the following:

John s/o Humphrey KNILL bap 22 Apr 1654
Patience KNILL bur 9 Aug 1659
Humphrey s/o Humphrey KNILL bap 13 Feb 1661/62
Richard KNILL bur 16 May 1666
Regards, Bill”
Source: Email from William Cooke, Online Parish Clerk (OPC), for St Giles in the Wood, High Bickington, Atherington, Tawstock, and Yarnscombe, Devon, England. 16 October, 2010. ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
“Anthony, I found some additional KNILL burials at Tawstock:
16 Dec 1669 Joane daughter of Mr KNILL
19 Jun 1670 Thomazyne KNILL widdow
7 Jul 1715 Edward KNILL
7 Jun 1733 Nicholas KNILL
12 Jul 1740 George KNILL
The Tawstock registers are rather disjointed. I found burials from 1653 and 1654 recorded after burials from 1670.
Cheers, Bill”
Source: Email from William Cooke, Online Parish Clerk (OPC), for St Giles in the Wood, High Bickington, Atherington, Tawstock, and Yarnscombe, Devon, England. 20 October, 2010.
Charles Knill in New Hampshire:
LX. CONTRACT WITH CHARLES KNILL. 

July 1, 1633. 

This present writing testifieth that Charles Knill doth covenant, 
with Capt. Walter Neale, Governor of Pafcattaquack, in New-England, 
in the behalf of Capt. John Mason of London, Efqr. and company, 
that the said Charles Knill shall serve at the plantation of Pafcatta- 
quack, for the use and benefitt of the said Capt. John Mason and 
company, from the date of this present writing until the first: of 
March next ensuing, during which said time, the said Charles Knill doth 
promise to doe all faithful service to the faid Capt. John Mason or his 
assignes. And the said Capt. Walter Neale doth promise in the be- 
half of the said Capt. John Mason, that the said Charles Knill shall 
well and truely be paid for his service during the said time, the somme 
of five poundes, either here in New-England or in any other place where 
Captain Johnn Mason, 
where the said Charles Knill shall conveniently appoynt, and the said 
Walter Neale doth further promise in the behalfe of the said John 
Mason, Esq. and company, that the said Charles Knill shall have pas- 
sage into England the next yeare after the said terme expires, in any 
such shipp as shall be sent hither for this plantation, provided that 

the said Charles Knill shall serve in the aforesaid plantation untill the 

shipps departure (if it shall be soe required) after the rate aforesaid. 

In testimony whereof the said Charles Knill hath here unto subscribed, 

this first of Julie, 1633. 

This is the true coppie of the covenant between Capt. Walter 
Neale and Charles Knill in the behalfe of the company. 

— New Hampshire Provincial Papers. Vol. I. p. 75. 
From Province Records. Book I. p.
more references here:
another Knill reference 1691 Boston

Brigus Noels

John Noel’s house at Riverhead, Brigus c. 1810 located on
the corner of Antle’s Beach and John Noel’s Hill

john noel house 2

more on the house here:

http://www.odeasauctionroom.nfld.net/brigus/brigus.htm

Speculative Structure of the Noel Family Tree in Brigus

I have tried to assemble the Brigus records I have into a Family Tree. This has necessitated many assumptions and no doubt will incorporate many errors. I believe it will be helpful as an overview but should not be put out as factual except in pieces where specific records have been reviewed. I have made the head of this family Abram Erel who died in 1805. That in itself is extremely speculative but would fit into a larger Noel picture and perhaps a son Isaac in Burnthead. Take this with a big grain of salt…….Perhaps this excercise will help those taking the Family Finder DNA test. It seems to be very helpful in identifying relationships once family trees are in place to connect the dots.

Family Tree link here:

Brigus Noels

In this case the 3 brothers which Ted Newell referred to below could be James of Bareneed, Nicholas whose sons landed in Pouch Cove and Abram Erel of Burnthead. Very Speculative. I believe however that they were sons or brothers of Clement Noel based on my Harbour Grace Noel DNA match with the Bareneed line.

Bareneed Newells Wales 2

Parish Records

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Parish/brold-brigusbdm.shtml

Family Individual Parents Month Date Year Minister /   Clergy Notes
Erel Abram  (Noel,Best, or Lush????? PN) May 19 1805 John   Percy (Bur)
Nile John Feb 5 1806 John   Percy (Bur)
Noel Stephen John   & Mary July 9 1807 John   Percy (Bap)
Noel Stephen John   & Mary July 15 1807 John   Percy (Bur)
Penny John Robert   & Charlotte Newell Mar 14 1813 John   Percy (Bap)
Penny Nathan Robert   & Charlotte Newell July 20 1823 John   Haigh
Penny missing Robert   & Charlotte Nouel Dec 12 1810 John   Percy (Bap)
Penny John Robert   & Charlotte Noule Mar 14 1813 John   Percy (Bap)
Penny missing Robert   & Charlotte Nouel June 11 1815 John   Percy (Bap)
Sparks James Ambrose   & Ann (Noel) Oct 6 1806 John   Percy (Bap)
Sparks James Ambrose   & Ann (Noel) Oct 8 1806 John   Percy (Bur)
Sparks missing Ambrose   & Ann Noul May 23 1810 John   Percy (Bap)
Sparks James Ambrose   & Ann Noel Oct 8 1806 John   Percy (Bur)
Sparks daughter Ambrose   & Ann Noel Apr 12 1818 John   Percy (Bur)
Noel Mary   Ann Robert   Cribb & ??? Nov 5 1824 Richard   Knight (Bap)
Noel Elizabeth John   & Ann Dec 5 1824 Richard   Knight (Bap)
Noel Stephen John   & Ann Dec 4 1826 Richard   Knight (Bap)
Noel Mary   Ann John   & Ann Nov 1 1829
Newell Ruth   Louisa James   Hy. & Mary Ann July 5 1864 C.   Combden
Newell William   Roberts James   Hy. & Mary Ann Nov 17 1866 W.E.   Shenstone
Newell Thomas   Mercer James   Hy. & Mary Ann July 9 1870 Rev.   Waterhouse
Newell Agnes Stephen   & Ann Eliza May 17 1856 J.   S. Phinney
Newell William   John Stephen   & Eliza Nov 14 1857 Rev.   Sprague
Newell Louisa Stephen   & Ann Eliza Nov 25 1859 C.   Combden
Newell Patience   Antle Stephen   & Ann Eliza Sept 26 1861 C.   Combden
Noel Diana Abraham   & Frances July 8 1869 Rev.   Waterhouse
Newell Agnes John   & Elizabeth Mar 6 1866 W.E.   Shenstone
Newell Emeline John   & Elizabeth July 2 1871 J.   S. Peach
Noel Anne   Elizabeth John   & Elizabeth July 15 1868 Rev.   Waterhouse
Noel Ann   Eliza John   & Elizabeth July 15 1869 Rev.   Waterhouse

more baptisms:

Brigus baptisms

Brigus United Methodist Church Marriages

Richard Rose & Elizabeth Noel                      Oct. 31 1868

John Newell & Elizabeth Mead                      Nov. 29 1860

James Henry Newell & Mary Ann Mercer     Dec. 5 1861

Abraham Newell & Fanny Rose                     June 13 1866

Inhabitants in the Harbour of Brigues & Cupids Ending September 27th, 1817

No Housekeeper Name Man Woman Children M Servants Supplier Name Means of   Providing
69 John   Nuhe 1 1 6 2 W Kemp Distressed
78 Mrs   Noyer 1 7 W Kemp Distressed
68 Isack   Nule 1 1 5 1 W   Kemp Distressed

Note 1 Nuhe should be Noel as his neighbour is William Antle Jr and the house above is built

Note 2 The name Noyer appears in NFLD but so rarely I believe that this is a Noel family as well.

Note 3 Isack in Cupids probably Burnthead

1835 Voter’s List

NEWELL, John Brigus River Head
NEWELL, James Brigus River Head
NEWELL, William Burnt Head
NEWELL, George Burnt Head

Burnt Head Baptisms & Marriages  1860 -1891 (some North River)

Burnthead Bapt

Burnt Head Death Registers

Burnthead deaths

Burnt Head Tree (in-process)

Thanks to Lori Ann of LARC’s Genes for this information

Burnt Head Tree

Sgt Samuel Newell of Burnt Head

http://www.canadiangreatwarproject.com/searches/soldierDetail.asp?Id=34836

Lovell’s 1871 Burnt Head

Newell Isaac, fisherman
Newell John, fisherman
Newel Robert
Newel George, fisherman

Brigus Past Glory, Present Splendour” by John Northway Leamon

Newell pages 281, 294
Newell 77
Noel & Nule, John 73, 74, 75, 77

anyone can do a lookup?

Brigus John Noel survey

Children of REBECCA MUNDEN(b ca 1786) and MICHAEL WAY are:

(early spelling can be Whey)

i. ANN8 WAY B ca 1820, ; m. NOEL; Unknown.

Pouch Cove Newells – Nicholas Newell the Start

I think the new information on the Trinity/Bonavista Newells potentially has some significance for the ancestry of Nicholas Newel:

Thomas Cole had found a number of Newell references which I also wanted to include. The descendants chart was possible because of legal proceedings over land rights amongst Newell family members. In stating his case Jonah Newell explicitly went through the relevant members of his family to show that there were no other claims from his father’s siblings who had all died with no wills. Likewise he showed that there were no descendants of these male siblings. In fact he seems to have perjured himself, probably unknowingly, as Thomas III had indeed left a will in Poole. Is it possible there were descendants in Poole who went unrecognized as well? I could find no clear information indicating such a case. Since all the potential claimants from Jonah’s side have been dealt with, any stray Newells remaining were likely from the opposing side in the dispute – the descendants of James Newell. Thomas Cole has identified 3 siblings I think. It seems some of his information comes from his work on the Abbott family. Some of his sources are not readily apparent to me. The reference to William Newell was a very brief one. I wondered if it could have been the as yet unidentified brother of James.

What this exercise does is provide a possible connection point for the various Noel/Newell lines across Newfoundland. Nicholas Newell indicated in the Quidi Vidi census of 1794 that his family had been in Newfoundland more than 100 years. This would be true if he connected to one of the James Newell lines. James Newell of Bareneed could fit in nicely if he was named after his grandfather. Nicholas Newell had a Port de Grave connection through his wife and possibly they were brothers. Joseph Noel in St John’s would fit this time frame . Clement Noel of Freshwater would also fit. The bulk of his oral history, however, points to Jersey.

Some new Tidbits – August 1, 2013

There was  another Frances Mugford Newell  – from a researcher:

I came across your Newell page and I was wondering if you have parents for Frances Mugford Newell born in Pouch Cove abt. September 20, 1855 (according to the 1901 Quebec census), She was married to Francis Latimore Morris who was born in St. John’s.

On NGB message board:

The only info on Julia Ann Newell’s ancestors is her father was James Newell and her mother Matilda. You probably know that Julia was born in 1859 and died 25 February 1951. (She married Valentine Butler)

Given the proximity of Torbay, it is possible that Mary Ann Noel below is from the Pouch Cove Newells.

Mary Ann Noel Torbay 1847

From another researcher this family rhyme:

First, my mother’s people are descended from the Newell’s of Pouch Cove – my g-grandmother was Caroline Newell, daughter of Jacob and Caroline Newell.  I have a little poem about her family that was passed on to me by my mother, and looking at the records on your website I think I have figured out who all the people are.

Poem about Nanny’s family (Newell), written out by my mother:

“Polly, Emily, Billy, Rich
Silent Tim, Beat and Sis
Jake, Joe, Suse and Sal
Abe and Low
Bess and Cal


According to Mom,
Jake = Nanny’s father Jacob Newell
Joe = Nanny’s uncle
Suse = Nanny’s mother, Susanna Evans
Sal = Uncle Joe’s wife
Cal = Caroline (Nanny herself)

Low may be short for Apollos – Mom thinks she might have had a great uncle Apollos (confirmed by parish records, Jacob and Caroline had a son Apollos).

Jacob and Caroline also had an Elizabeth, so Bess is Caroline’s sister.

Frances Newell nee Mugford and the Port de Grave Connection

Mugford Family

An update on Nicholas Newell and Frances Mugford from Walter Batten:
Aug 5, 1817
Superior Court
St. John’s.

Nicholas Newell, St. John’s Planter Memorial. Married Frances, the eldest daughter of the late Robert Mugford of Port de Grave , Planter deceased. The Mugford Will in 1772 left land there to his wife Ann and then to his daughterFrances. Mugford died about 1794. His will:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-mugford-robert-7-168.shtml

His widow died in 1813. She had leased the property for 31 years to John Walsh who assigned it to Pete MacPherson who now would not pay.Sep 15, 1817. Continuation of Case. Frances claimed the property and won.

I believe Nicholas Newell represents the start of the Pouch Cove Newells. He entered into a rental agrrement for the Port de Grave property of his deceased father-in-law. That being the case I would expect that he himself could have joined his sons in Pouch Cove from Quidi Vidi.

After his death though Frances was living in St John’s in 1836.

Nicholas Newell-Walsh rental ag

transcription:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-walsh-john-newell-nicholas.shtml

His sons however seemed to have relocated to Pouch Cove circa 1800.

Nicholas Newell has turned into a most interesting character. He made the 1794 census in Quidi Vidi. His wife’s estate was in dispute and clear records were left about his family. He left a contractual document. There is a reference to a Port de Grave property in the family. If that was not enough……there are 2 versions of the 1794 census posted that are not identical. The one I was using lists him as born in Newfoundland. The other one puts 99 years for how long resident. I take this to mean his family has been in Newfoundland for more than 100 years. This puts the Noels/Newells back to the late 1600′s assuming DNA continues to indicate a connection for various lines. I hope I am interpreting this right, I could not find a clear answer online.

I think I was already heading to that conclusion. Clement Noel/Newells are scarce in England. Clement with the Jersey influence and an early Clement surname, is more common in Newfoundland. The door remains open for ties to the Trinity Newells and also some early St. John’s records. There is also Richard Newell in the Port de Grave area (Cupid’s) in 1623.

Carbonear Noel/Newells spread out?

Ted Newell of Bareneed recorded:

James Newell of Bareneed b ca 1740 does not fit – back to work

Nicholas Newell of Pouch Cove b ca 1755 (had land in Port De Grave District)

Isaac Noel of Burnthead b ca 1765

Daniel Noel to Grate’s Cove b ca 1775

The first indication I can see so far of a Newell in Pouch Cove, is the Abigail Newell marriage in 1806. I would expect they would be well-settled at this point.

Nicholas Newell was a stray first picked up in Harbour Grace in 1785. We have Nicholas and Frances records for 2 children nearly 20 years apart.

Newal John Nicolas   & Frances 29 May   1785 St Paul’s, Harbour Grace
Newell George Nicolas & Frances by Rev. John Jones 15 Jan 1804 1st Congregational,   St John’s

In 1794 he appears in the census of Quidi Vidi.  The family consists of Nicholas and Frances. They have 3 boys and 1 girl with them. Frances’s estate papers of 1838 indicate 7 children John, Nicholas, Robert, George, Abigail, Anne and Margaret. The sons are descibed as surviving sons. I think this infers that Elijah was a son but has died. The papers also indicate she had a property in Port de Grave. It is possible Daniel was a son and either he or Elijah had moved away to work.

Various estate documents here:

Frances Newell 2

Nicholas Newell Jr estate

Newell Estate documents transcribed here (including Richard and Isaac):

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/1estate-n-idx.shtml

In 1830, widower Nicholas Newell Jr  of Pouch Cove marries  widow Anne (Anastatia) Roberts of Adam’s Cove; not too far from Freshwater & Carbonear. She may be related to Jane Roberts who married George Newell in St John’s and died at 35 in 1834.  Clement of Freshwater had a daughter Elizabeth Hudson in Adam’s Cove who died in 1797.  This leads me to believe that Nicholas was possibly from Carbonear, a son of Clement of Freshwater born ca 1725. There is oral history that says Clement was an Englishman.

Nicholas Sr or Frances secured property in Port de Grave at some point. I believe thet Nicholas` sons moved from Quidi Vidi to Pouch Cove between 1794 and 1805. There his son Robert (no birth record) started his family and Abigail and Anne his daughters lived as well.

Nicholas Newell Descendants Chart link:

Nicholas Newell

William Newell b ca 1828 of Pouch Cove/St John’s

R. Stanley has very good info on this line. He believes this line ties to Poole.

I have started an Isaac Newell tree:

Isaac Tree

Misc Records Updated Dec 29th

Pouch Cove Marriages

Vital Stat Births

Pouch Cove Voters Lists

James Newell 1870, Pouch Cove

Apollos Newell 1890

Jacob S Newell

Julia Ann of Jacob & Sus 1894 n

John Thomas newell 1880 of John and Jane

William T Newell border

Misc Records Updated Jan 1 2013

Vital Stats marriages

Noseworthy pouch cove 2

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I WOULD LIKE TO HEAR FROM ANYONE OF THE FAMILY WHO CAN HELP ME

COMPLETE THE VARIOUS FAMILY LINES – THANX

pete

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Re: Newell Family

dcroughwell1  From Message Board 2001

Greatgrandmother Jane Newell Baldwin, nee April 6, 1864, Pouch Cove, Nfld., Canada. Parents: James Newell & Mary Jane Cox, but no info on them. She married John Baldwin also of Pouch Cove, 1888 xmas eve. They immigrated to US, New Hampshire in 1911. Do not know anything about her siblings. Went to Pouch Cove this summer, only info was from a Samuel Newell who stated the Newells were from Wales.

A Strange Record

Nikolaus Knoell in 1783, Newfoundland, Canada

Hessian Troops in the American War for Independence: An Index According to Surname and Hanau Regiment. Date and place of entry in unit books. Year of birth, place of origin, rank, unit, category of presentation, and archive code of the source are also provided (ancestry.com). Seems to conflict with other data.

Early St John`s Nowells-Newells-Knowles

Richard Newell Mayor of Barnstaple

Richard Newell of Mayor of Barnstaple, Newfoundland trader:

Richard Newell 1727

The first recorded Noel/Newell was Richard Newell a factor in Newfoundland ca 1620

Coopers Cove 1610

The Knowles of Devon make appearances.

In 1669 Mr Knowles appeared with Fishing Admiral Christopher Martin. This Admiral was famous for driving the Dutch from St John`s using his ship`s cannon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fort_William,_Newfoundland

The Journal of James Yonge (1641-1721), Plymouth Surgeon, ed., F.N.L.Poynter, (London).

St John`s Fishing fleet 1669.

Name Ship From Port Boats Men
Mr Christopher Martin Marigold Plymouth 18 90
Mr. Jno Rich Blessing Dartmouth 10 50
Mr. Wm  Cock Fortune Dartmouth 5 25
Mr. Tho:   Fowles Solomon Dartmouth 11 55
Mr. Rob.   Fletcher Unity Dartmouth 12 60
Mr. Knowles James Dartmouth 8 40
Mr. Barthol.   Hill Diamond Dartmouth 3 15
Mr. Jno.   Martin Phenix Tinmouth 12 60
Mr Lux   &c. Nonesuch Dartmouth 15 75
Mr Allen Heyn Dartmouth 8 40
Mr. Tho:   Waymouth Fortune Dartmouth 6 30
Mr. Ball Unity Plymouth 5 25
Mr. Cope London 3 15
Mr. Ellice   Martyn Dartmouth 3 15
Mr. Bawden Tinmouth 5 25

It looks like Captain Christopher Martin also travelled to Barbados. He brought some passengers back to Newfoundland:

tickets from Barbados

Not sure if this is the same Capt Knowles:

Knowles

An early Irish Merchant was probably involved in trade with St John’s:

Thomas Knowles of Ireland

The Knoll name appearing in this 1704 document is likely Charles Nowles

(or his family) who appears in 1706 St. John’s inhabitants

’1704 Thomas Newell document (Knoll also)

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/cor-list-st-johns-inhabitants-1706.shtml

A Mr Newell was conducting business in 1719.

https://noelhistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/11/newell-1719.doc

Joseph Nowell

In St. John’s Joseph Nowell marries Hannah Hoggins in 1759. Newly married he was trying to secure the rights of his wife Hannah Hoggins to the Morrison estate in St John`s in 1759 (original and transcription).

joseph newell 1759

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-newell-joseph-plantation.shtml

He might be the same generation as Clement b ca 1735 of Freshwater. There is also a Thomas Neal and Samuel Neal in St John`s that look related to each other in the same period. Joseph names his son Thomas.

He has 3 kids using the same spelling. In Newfoundland this is a relatively unusual spelling. In the courts the ownership of the land is described after it has been passed on to his son Thomas. Their land is further described in making way for a new road. Thomas Nowell, 57, son of Joseph sold the land in 1820. In 1767, a widower, Joseph marries Rebecca Heize.  I am still looking at what happened to this family.

https://noelhistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/st-john-s-bap-and-burials.xls

St john’s Cathedral Marriages courtesy David Pike

St John’s Catholic Cathedral:

Knowles_Noles Bapt St johns

Legal discussion of the Nowell deed

http://www.heritage.nf.ca/law/lab4/labvol4_2031.html

Nowel in 1781……

http://nl.canadagenweb.org/sj_residents.htm

http://ngb.chebucto.org/C1794/1794-quiddy-viddy-sje.shtml

Some St Johns area residents ca 1709:

1709 St John’s Area Residents

Early Noel Origins – Harbour Grace/Carbonear

Freshwater/Carbonear

Jersey or England

Selby Noel in his research felt that Clemence Noel b ca 1735 (now I believe 1725) came from Jersey. However, his research trip to Jersey failed to turn up a suitable candidate amongst the Clements. It looks like there was an error in one of his assumptions that opens the door for Clement born 1715 as a potential candidate.

It is possible that Jerseyman was a generic term for Channel Islander and so Guernsey should probably also be considered.

Norman Krischke got this information:

George S. Noel of St. John’s states that his mother Sarah Jane (Moores) Noel, wife of William H. Noel mentioned frequently, as it was handed down to her:

“The first Noel in Freshwater was Clemence Noel, an Englishman who had 6 sons. Some of these sons or their descendants moved to Harbour Grace South and elsewhere in Newfoundland.”

This has now been confirmed by DNA. The Family Finder autosomal project links Harbour Grace and Carbonear. Some DNA testing seems to be pointing to a match of the Bareneed Newells and the HG Noels. Some of the conflicting oral histories are clearing up.

From Roland Noel: “The Noels of Freshwater were descendants of French Huguenots according to my Grandfather George A. Noel born 1888. He told us that our ancestors were from Alsace-Lorraine, in the Northern part of France. Moreover, they were French Protestants, left France on or about the time of the St.Bartholomew’s Day Massacre (August 24, 1572) and moved to Jersey Island……….”

Saint-Barthelemy-massacre

…..Many Protestants managed to escape the massacre. Some found refuge in the Huguenot strongholds of Sancerre and La Rochelle. Thousands of others fled the kingdom, bound for Geneva, Basel, Strasburg (Alsace-Lorraine), or London.

Alsace Lorraine (district of Bas-Rhin, France) was in the German area called  the Palatine from which many refugees fled at various times. It seemed to be an epicenter for religious and national conflicts between Catholic and Protestant/Germany and France.

http://www.christianitytoday.com/ch/2001/issue71/1.8.html

In fact, Jersey hosted two waves of Huguenot immigration from France within a century: the first in 1570-1580s, and the second during the great exodus after the revocation of the edict of Nantes, after 1685.

In his book on the history of St. Helier, historian E. C. Nicolle argues that the largest influx of french refugees during this ‘first Huguenot wave’ took place between 1585 and 1588. Most of them regrouped in St. Helier, the main island town, to the point where the Royal Court was forced to legislate to limit the amount of rents and the price of foodstuffs. In 1603, due to the increase of the population permanent city, it became necessary to establish a new market day.

The records of St Helier start about 1584. A Jean of Jean & Katherine is baptised in 1597. There are abundant records of Noels in Jersey however.

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/St_Helier_baptisms_-_N

However, a document retained by the Société Jersiaise lists 185 french protestants living in exile in the island at the time it was written. Almost all men and women of the list originated in lower Normandy, and Bocage in particular, as evidenced by their surnames. The protestant community in this region is estimated to have been  1,300 people – this is according to Protestant historians who have studied a list. Almost a third of these families came to settle in Jersey.

http://www.cairn.info/zen.php?ID_ARTICLE=ETR_0812_0183

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Palatines

The Edict of Nantes in 1598 gave the Huguenots some protection.

In Jersey there was a sudden influx of Huguenots as Louis XIV revoked the Edict of Nantes in 1685, effectively depriving them of the freedom to practice their religion by brutal methods : (in accordance of catholic hierarchy):prosecutions : prisons, galley slaves, no property rights, “dragonnades”etc, etc [4]

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Huguenot_refugees

“……..From Jersey many years later a Clement Noel moved to Freshwater Conception Bay near Carbonear, Newfoundland”

Clement’s first documented child is Elizabeth born ca 1850.

Possible Sons from combining info from Selby-Norman-Pete

1. Clement Jr  b ca 1760 m Patience Taylor 1788  pretty clear  – given land

2.  John b 1761 ma Frances Moores 1781 pretty clear – given land

3. Nicolas Noel Sr (ca 1752) born in Newfoundland

Nicholas is a common name of the Brixham , Devon lines.

Newal John Nicolas & Frances 29 May 1785 St Paul’s, Harbour Grace
Noel George Nicolas & Frances by Rev. John Jones 15 Jan 1804 1st Congregational, St John’s

In 1794 he appears in the census of Quidi Vidi.

4. Unknown Noel??? George?? drowned per vague oral history from Selby Noel

5. Possibly  James Newell  of Bareneed

Harbour Grace/Bryant’s Cove

Definite Jersey

The only confirmed family link across to Jersey is Josue Noel (born ca 1770) of Philippe Noel and Rachel Le Cornu. It now seems a possibility as well that there was a Lecornu Jersey Merchant (Matthew Martin document) in Harbour Grace around 1800 as well. (not known if there is a connection). This seems to be a line that ends.

Probably Jersey

1) Another account had an ancestor, her grandfather “chased out of Jersey to Sheffield, England, and then to NF”. I heavily discounted this account. It does have some possibilities though. Some Nowells of Somerset were Quakers. It seems they were chased out of their locale – some heading to the North. Also looking through the Noels in the Quaker database some seemed to have originated in France possibly coming via Jersey.

2) Moses Noel born 1816 had a grandson Norman who stated that his family fled France to Jersey during the Huguenot persecution. This would mean that the Noels in Harbour Grace were not from a long-established family in Jersey.

C. Noel reports oral history that Moses Noel was related to the Carbonear Noels.

Another character has left a thin trail in Harbour Grace. John Noel (Newall) was a Bristol Merchant who leased land in Harbour Grace for his agent. He died in 1805/6 leaving an insolvent estate. His estate document describes him as “late of Harbour Grace’. We know he did business from Harbour Grace to Quebec and New Brunswick.

From The Newfoundland Quarterly – Spring 1936

“The Jerseymen Of Harbour Grace”

Quoted from the Survey of Settlements 1804…

“on the Southside of Harbour Grace the executors of John Clement claim 330 yards waterfront west from the Stone House. The Noels and the Yetman’s still living there are also originally Jersey families and related to the Clements”

Seary has a John Clements in Bay Roberts in 1760 and a William Clemens of Brigus 1709. I am finding DNA connections to the French and Earle families in these areas.

England/Wales

William Noel (arrive ca 1826) – seems to have the best oral history and following that oral history would be the logical next step. Hopefully military records would be a first step into gaining further insights. The Decks Awash publication say the Noels were from Devon or Dorset. I would assume they were referring to this line. William was apparently born in Wales though of English heritage. The Brixham Fishing  Nowells of Devon had a branch in Tenby, Wales.

Newells in Carbonear

One line of the Trinity Newells established in Carbonear. The origins of this early line are unknown but likely south England, possibly Hampshire. Brixham, Devon has a Knowling family that lines up nicely. Nicholas  Newell said his family was in Newfoundland for 100 years in 1794. This would be true of the Trinity Newells. Thomas Cole found the James Newell line of Trinity possibly has some descendants  unaccounted for.

Carbonear Noel/Newells spread out?

Ted Newell of Bareneed recorded:

James Newell of Bareneed b ca 1760

Nicholas Newell of Pouch Cove b ca 1752

Isaac Noel of Burnthead b ca 1765

OF INTEREST TO RESEARCHERS:

from Dr. W. Gordon Handcock’s 1989 book

”SO LONGE AS THERE COMES NOE WOMEN”

(Origins of English Settlement in Newfoundland);
Breakwater Books ISBN no’s 0-920911-55-2/paper and 0-920911-80-3/bound;

page 250.

Family names associated with the Nfld fishery from Teignmouth-Shaldon (Devon):

Ashford, Babb, Bickford, Bulley, Codner, Cornish, Harvey, Mudge, Pinson, Prowse, Row, Squarey, Stephens, Tapley and Whiteway.

From the Torbay-Dartmouth (Devon) area:

Carter, Congdon, Dodd, Evans, Godfrey, Goodridge, Griffin, Henley, Hutchings, Hutton, Lee, Luscombe, Marshall, Martin, Matthews, Morry, Perriman, Phillips, Pope, Rich, Seally, Searle, Soper, Squires, Sparkes, Storey, Tremblett and Way.

From Poole, Dorset:

Anstey, Corban, Durrell, Etheridge, Frampton, Gale, Gould, Harrison, Hooper, Keats, Knight, Linthorne, Newell, Pike, Randell, Taverner, Vallis, White, and Wise.

The Brixham Nowells/Knowlings of Devon

Brixham

Brixham history

http://www.devon.gov.uk/historicbrixham

The Brixham Nowells of Devon were a fishing family that operated over many centuries. They had branches in Hull, Ramsgate and Tenby, Wales. As Newfoundland was a focus of the fishing industry we detect their presence in Newfoundland. To what extent they have operated and settled remains an open question

Brixham history notes:

http://www.ianperkes.co.uk/index.php/history/brixhams-history

Thomas Cole was studying records in Bonavista, Newfoundland.

He noted for 1678 – Nicholas Nowell captain of the Bricksom Merchant bn Brixham s/o Philip/brother of John Noll (Nowell). John Noll was attacked by the French in Bonavista in 1705.

The Knowlings were another family line in Brixham during the same period. They were involved in the Newfoundland trade. They signed the 1642 Devon Petition along with the Knowles of Dartmouth.

25 January 1642 —
A Copy of petition of the Mayor, his brethren and the rest of the inhabitants of Clifton-Dartmouth-Hardnes, with the places adjacent, to the Justices of the Peace for the County of Devon. The petitioners, who are occupied in the Newfoundland fisheries, complain that their trade is likely to be destroyed in consequence of the number of Turkish pirates from Algiers and Sallee, the rebellion in Ireland, and the dread entertained of a popish rising.

Dartmouth 1642

713 Knowlinge James M1635 Brixham.
714 Knowlinge Tho M1645 Brixham.

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Cole-Documents/dartmouth-harbour-gathering-1642.shtml

 

Thomas and Richord Knowling of Brixham married 1645

Thomas  bap April 16, 1645

John bap Nov 16, 1654 (FHS transcription Knewlinge)

James bap Oct 10, 1656

Mary bap Sept 13, 1659

 

15 Feb. 1710 (rec’d & read)

The merchants of Bideford

    

The harbours of Ferryland and Fermeuse having been safe places to fish until now, require two warships . Every fifth name picked: W. Hath, L. Knitt?, Peter Willington, William Meddon?, Timothy Lang, J. Clifton May, J. Buck, G. Knowling, T. Adams.

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/CO194/CO194-4.htm

Some Genealogical Records

Births:

Child/Parent(s)

RICHARDE (son) NOWELL PHILLIPPE 09 12 1594
TAMSYN NOWELL JOHN ?? 05 1596
JOHN NOWELL PHILLIP 25 01 1630/1

Tamsin is a contraction of Thomasina, which is a feminine form of Thomas. Thomas is the Greek form of the Aramaic name Te’oma, which means “twin”.

Richard female below?????

THOMAS KNOWLLING THOMAS & RICHORD 20 04 1645
AVERIN (dau) KNOWLLING HUGH 25 10 1642
ELIZABETH NOWELL PHILLIP & MATHEW 26 01 1638/9

Mathew is female……

Below also transcribed as John Knewlinge FHS

1 JOHN KNOWLINGE THOMAS 16 11 1654
HENRY NOWELL JOHN 24 08 1655
JAMES KNOWLING THOMAS 30 10 1656
NICHOLAS NOWELL NICHOLAS 07 08 1657
JOHN NOWELL NICHOLAS 06 08 1659
MARY KNOWLINGE THOMAS 13 09 1659
ELIZABETH NOWELL JOHN 14 10 1659
PETERNELL NOWELL NICHOLAS 18 10 1662
JOHN NOWELL JOHN 25 10 1662
JOHAN NOWELL NICHOLAS 28 11 1665
ANDREW NOWELL JOHN 24 02 1665/6
MATHW (dau) NOWILL JOHN 18 01 1673/4
NICHOLAS NOWELL JOHN 08 02 1675/6
NICHOLAUS NOWELL PHILLIP 07 08 1677
JOHN NOWELL NICHOLAUS & DORCAS 23 05 1681
NICHOLAUS NOWELL NICHOLAUS & DORCAS 08 08 1683
JOHN NOWELL HENRY & MARY 03 08 1690
SIBELA NOWELL JOHN & MARY 06 10 1691
MARY NOWELL HENRY & MARY 22 11 1692
MARGARET NOWELL JOHN & MARY 14 02 1692/3
HENRY NOWELL HENRY & MARGARET 09 08 1686
JOHN NOWEL NICHOLAS & ANN 23 11 1701
ELIZAB KNOWLINGS JAMES & ELIZAB 07 08 1705
NICHOLAS NOWEL NICHOLAS & ANNE 16 10 1705
OADES NOWELL NICHOLAS & ANN 23 10 1707
THOMAS KNOWLING JAMES & ELIZABETH 27 10 1709
JOSEPH NOWELL NICHOLAS & PATIENCE 05 10 1714
DORCAS NOWELL NICHOLAS & PATIENCE 13 04 1716
NICHOLAS NOWELL NICHOLAS & PATIENCE 03 04 1718
JOHN NOWELL JOHN & AGNES 03 09 1723
NICHOLAS NOWEL JOHN & AGNES 09 12 1725
ELIZABETH NOWEL OADS & SUSANNAH 11 03 1728/9
WILLIAM NOWELL JOHN & AGNES 28 08 1729
DANIEL NOWELL JOHN & AGNES 01 11 1732
JOSEPH NOWELL OADS & SUSANNA 22 11 1734
THOMAS NOWELL JOHN & AGNES 05 11 1735
THOMAS KNOWLING THOMAS & ELIZABETH 04 01 1737/8
JOSEPH NOWEL JOSEPH & ELISABETH 15 10 1740
RICHARD NOWELL JOSEPH & ELIZABETH 22 12 1741
JOSEPH NOWEL JOSEPH & ELIZABETH 05 12 1744
JOSEPH KNOWLES EDWARD & MARY 04 10 1748
SUSANNA KNOWLINGS ELIZABETH 19 01 1748/9
AGNES NOWEL NICHOLAS & CATHARINE 25 04 1749
EDWARD KNOWLES EDWARD & MARY 16 12 1750
JOHN NOWEL NICHOLAS & CATHARINE 16 10 1752
JOSEPH KNOWLES EDWD & MARY 29 10 1752
JOHN NOWELL JOHN & JANE 01 01 1754
MARY KNOWLES EDWARD & MARY 26 12 1755
WILLIAM NOWELL JOHN & JANE 25 12 1757
MARY KNOWLES EDWARD & MARY 14 01 1759
ELIZABETH KNOWLES EDWARD & MARY 13 04 1761
JOHN KNOWLES EDWARD & MARY 24 01 1763

 

England,   Births and Christenings, 1538-1975
Philip Nowell 07 Jul 1633 Phillip Nowell
Philip Nowell 25 Jan 1631 John Nowell
Philip Nowell 26 Jan 1639 Elizabeth Nowell spouse: Mathew
Philip Nowell 07 Mar 1631 Nicholas Nowell
Philip Nowell 07 Aug 1676 Nicholaus Nowell

 

Muster roll 1569 Brixham – Nowell

Walter Batten had these family records listed:

Family of Phillipe Nowell and Rycharde Eme at Brixham.

Phillip born c. 1590 married Martha Barrett October 1617.
John born c. 1591 married Richord Ellett Oct 1617.
Richard born c. 1594

Children shown as Christened to Phillip of Brixham:

Jan 25, 1631 John
Mar 7, 1631 Nicholas
Jul 7, 1633 Phillip

Marriages:

NOWELL PHILLIPPE EME RYCHORDE 5 1 1589/90
CURRYDON THOMAS NOWELL ISABELL 14 11 1590
NOWELL PHILLIP BARRETT MARTHA 14 10 1617
NO?ELL JOHN ELLETT RICHORD 8 10 1617
58 EATON of Dartmoth THOMAS KNOWLLING of the sam? CASSANDREW 06 08 1632
KNOWLLING JAMES WARD MARGARETT 07 04 1635
PENY RICHARD KNOWLLING SIBLY 23 11 1636
KNOWLLINGE HUGH EASTON SIBLY 24 01 1641/2
KNOWLLING THOMAS HAZARD RICHORD 14 01 1643/4
KNOWLLING JAMES BLACKALLER THOMASIN 24 03 1644
REEVE of Brixham RICHARD PENNY of Brixham SIBLY 26 01 1656/7 William Clowter, Christopher Nowland
LUSCOMBE of Brixham ARTHUR s/ Elizabeth PENNEY d-i-lw to Richard Reeve MARGARETT of Brixham 28 11 1659 Richard Reeve, James Knowlinge, Hugh Graye
NOWELL JOHN LUSCOMBE of Mareldon JULIAN 17 03 1672/3
CUNDET WILLIAM KNOWLING SIBLY 02 02 1684/5
NOWELL HENRY DOLBER MARY 29 09 1689
NOWELL JOHN PROWSE MARY 14 10 1690
KNOWLINGS JAMES COOTE ELIZABETH 22 11 1704
CUNDETT AZERIAS NOWELL SIBELLA 04 01 1709/10
NOWEL OADES ROGERS SUSANNAH 24 09 1727
KNOWLING THOMAS ELLIOT ELIZABETH 09 05 1737
HOWARD JOHN KNOWLING ELIZABETH 12 11 1738
NOWEL JOSEPH (OTP) CROWTE ELISABETH (OTP) 08 04 1740

Burials (Partial)

THOMAS NOWELL 11 03 1582/3
RYCHARDE NOWELL S/ PHILLIPE 18 01 1602/3
RICHARD NOWELL 28 05 1617
SIBLYE KNOWLLING W/ JAMES 24 08 1634
ELIZABETH NOWELL 13 08 1642
PHILLIP NOWELL 21 12 1643
MARGARETT KNOWLLING 10 03 1643/4
JOAN KNOWLLING 02 11 1644
PETERNELL NOWELL 30 11 1645
ELIZABETH KNOWLINGE D/ THOMAS 27 10 1663
PETRONELL NOWELL D/ NICHOLAS 26 12 1663
THOMAS KNOWLD A SEAMAN OF SESSEX SHEERE 20 02 1663/4
JAMES KNOWLINGE 28 04 1664
SIBLY NOWELL W/ JOHN 24 02 1665/6
ANDREW NOWELL S/ JOHN 16 04 1668
JOANE NOWELL W/ NICHOLAS 06 11 1676
MARTHA NOWELL D/ JOHN 14 12 1678
JULIAN NOWELL 12 02 1685/6
RICHARD KNOWLING 05 07 1690
MARY NOWELL 14 09 1693
JOHN NOWELL S/ HENRY 14 09 1693
HENRY NOWELL S/ HENRY 12 08 1696
MARGARET NOWELL W/ HENRY 16 08 1696
JOHN NOWELL 27 02 1697/8

 

 

 

 

 

 

Other family trees:
https://familysearch.org/pal:/MM9.2.1/SYDK-CBD

http://dodd.familytreeguide.com/pedigree.php?personID=I8012&tree=T1&PHPSESSID=9ca61ab9edd7c110aae041646e790184

Bonavista, Newfoundland links:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/1678-shipsr-bon.shtml

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/bonavista-1497-1700-bon.shtml

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/fr_atk.shtml

And from Walter Batten:

1677: Phillip Newell, Captain of the “Nicholas” out of Dartmouth. 90 tons with 56 men and 11 boats. (Boats were carried on deck for fishing)

1675: Nicholas Nowell, Captain of the “Brixham” out of Brixham. 80 tons with 60 men and 12 boats at Bonavista. 2 stages and 1 Train full. (A train is how Cod Oil was measured)

1676: Nicholas Newell at Harbour Grace. From Dartmouth with 30 men and 6 boats. Vessel particulars not recorded.

1677 Ship Nicholas for Barbadoes

National Archive Crew List records – Devon

Bideford – 1863
Registered Port: Brixham, Devon (later Dartmouth registration?)
Tonnage: 129
Master(s): Nowell; Jefferies
Owner(s): Nowell

Wasp – 1863
Registered Port: Dartmouth, Devon
Tonnage: 35
Master(s): Sherry
Owner(s): Nowell

Gleaner 1891-1896
Registered Port: Brixham, Devon
Tonnage: 24
Master(s): Nowell
Owner(s): Nowell

Heriam – 1893
Registered Port: Dartmouth, Devon
Tonnage: 23
Master(s): Nowell
Owner(s): Nowell

Industry – 1913
Registered Port: Brixham, Devon
Tonnage: 24
Master(s): Nowell
Owner(s): Dugdall

Vessel: “Beatrice” 1881 Kent

Robert NOWEL         U 15 M Ramsgate, Kent, England A B Seaman

Vessel: “Enigma” 1881 Kent

John NOWELL       M 43 M Brixham, Devon, England Master
John NOWELL         U 17 M Ramsgate, Kent, England Third Hand

Vessel “PET” – Cornwall 1881

NOWELL Joseph             u    24    Brixham, Dev              Mate
NOWELL William            u    16    Brixham, Dev              Cook

Nowell Crew List
Brixham Tithe Apportionment of 1842 – Freeholder Nowell

Petition of Mary Nowell, widow of Dartmouth

To the Rt. Hon’able & Rt. Worp’lls His Maj’ties: Justices of Peace at ye Court of Sessions held in ye County of
Devon:

The humble Petition of Mary NOWELL, widdow of Harnes In Dartmo:

Humbly Sheweth:

That yo’r petitioners son Michael Sanuders was an apprentice unto Thomas Blackler of Dartmo: who in a Ship of that place called ye Eagle The said Blackler Com’and’ [Commander] went hence in her intended voiage for Newfoundland & from thence goeing with her Loading of fish toward ye Straights about ffifty Leagues off of ye Souther Cape meet wth a Sally man of warr wch. had 4 guns 12 Petereerers and see men [seaman] wch. came up & boarded them fireing on my awhole broadside & entring abord 20 of ye Turkes…………

http://genuki.cs.ncl.ac.uk/DEV/Dartmouth/MaryNowell1688.html

Research

There is an experienced researcher (jigsawpuzzler) who has tracked the family back to the Philip Nowell above. She has posted her line in the various locations as follows:

My jigsaw puzzle starts with Philip born in Brixham at the end of the 16th century, there are a few earlier Nowells but any attempt to make a tree would be guess work. The Nowells stay in Brixham other than their seafaring until 1829 when
Henry b.1804 moves his family to Bridgewater.
William b.1806 has his family in Teignmouth & Brompton Kent 1834-47.
John William b.1809 has family in Brixham Ireland & Ramsgate 1831-51
Nicholas b.1810 has a daughter in Tenby, Wales in 1840
John 1818 has his family in Tenby 1844-47
Nicholas b.1815 has family in Ramsgate 1840
Stephen b. 1829 has family in Hull in 1850
In the 1870s some families went to London, but there was a lot of movement between Hull, Ramsgate Tenby & Brixham but with Brixham featuring less & less.
One Nowell Samuel b.1869 had his son Roger in Altoona USA, Roger joined the RFC in WWI and died falling from or being shot from a plane over France

This would mean that this would be too late in Wales for our lines in Newfoundland. I guess another view might be that John Noll’s ship Pembroke of 1705 might have referred to Pembrokeshire where Tenby is located. That means there could have been a Wales connection in the right time period.

On the other hand it is possible there are other lines there. Someone else posted:

“My Davies and Nowell families, 1700-1890s, lived right on the front by
Tenby Harbour.”

Not clear to me if the both families are from the 1700’s though.

 Jane Nowell Article

a descendant of the Brixham Nowells.

Used with permission. Thank you Thomas Liffiton!

Jane Nowell 3-2-14

In St John’s

The Times and General Commercial Gazette (March 25 1835)

DIED on Monday evening last, after an illness of only forty-eight hours, Mr. JOSEPH NOWELL, aged 38, a native of Brixham, Devonshire.  His funeral will take place from the house of Mr. Goss, this afternoon, at 3 o’clock, when his friends and acquaintances are requested to attend.

An experienced researcher says one branch of the family a George Nowell was in New Brunswick in 1847-1850 with 3 children born there.

It looks like the Nowells were indeed thinning out in Brixham by the 1800’s

http://www.devonheritage.org/Places/Brixham/BrixhamResidentslistedintheGreatUniversalDir.htm

That is where firm references end.

The Brixham Nowells seem to have a frequent occurence of the name Nicholas through the generations. We have Nicholas and Frances wirh 2 children.  Nicholas was born in Newfoundland.It looks like he has a son and a grandson Nicholas in Pouch Cove.

Brixham Fishing families

Tenby Fishing Fleet

Tenby or Dinbych-y-pysgod, meaning little town of the fishes

http://www.bbc.co.uk/blogs/wales/posts/The-fishing-fleet-of-Tenby

Tenby

Interesting boat in Tenby

http://www.flickr.com/photos/52523368@N05/9913774575/in/photostream/

Captain Newell Death

This was at a dockyard not too far from Ramsgate where a branch of the Nowell clan operated.

Capt Newell 1795 burial

A Petition by Devon fishermen in 1642:

Devon Petition 1642

originally from here:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Cole-Documents/dartmouth-harbour-gathering-1642.shtml

An article on Devon and Dorset Newfoundland origins:

http://collections.mun.ca/PDFs/cns_decks/DA_Vol22_No02.pdf