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The First Newell

The Search for Richard Newell (Factor ca 1623)

The quest for this man is based on the earliest Noel/Newell mentioned in Newfoundland. Thomas Cole records him as a factor for John Slaney the Treasurer of The Newfoundland Company.

Recently John Philip Newell published an article based on Richard Newell’s Journals.

He has started a website documenting his family research. He started researching the Newells of the Dock (Bareneed) and has pursued various Noel/Newell genealogical strands for many years.

His website:

johnpnewell.com .

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A broad list of those involved in the first colony:

Coopers Cove 1610

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possibly a speculation, Cole has:

Richard, born abt 1580 m 1608 Margaret Coggan Lyme Regis Dorset / Slany’s agent in Newfoundland 1623.

Mr. Cole was pursuing the possibility Richard Newell had descendants in Newfoundland but it now seems unlikely.

Thomas Cole`s  summary of Newell info can be found here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20050503061733/http://geocities.com/colestips/Newell.htm

A few Noel items here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20091027184644/http://ca.geocities.com/colestips/Noel.htm

Coletips Index to other surnames and more here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20040521174038/http://www3.sympatico.ca/colestips/index.html

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Geoff Martin’s notices – Noel/Newell/Neil

newspaper-clippings

 

Freshwater Petition:

Petition 1784

Family Search Update

Family search has made their data more user friendly. Most recently they made all their Vital Statistics searchable:

https://familysearch.org/search/collection/list#page=1&countryId=1929955

Vital records are now entirely searchable……

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The Colonial Secretary’s Letterbook

 by Olaf U. Janzen, Professor of History
Grenfell Campus, Memorial University of Newfoundland
Corner Brook, Newfoundland

I had not seen these indexing projects before and found them very useful:

The Colonial Secretary’s Letterbook & CO 194 Indexes

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/Letterbook/

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/CO194/index.htm

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Norman C Krischke

This site is possible because of the work of Norman C. Krishke. In this version of our website we have abandoned 2 principles of his research. First we have abandoned the family lines that made up his book “Gather up the Noels”. I felt we had connected enough of the lines that a tree format made more sense. The second change is that I have tried to force the early Noels into their most likely locations, if necessary, by weak family links or even timing. This has given a Macro view of the family which was never possible before. After this exercise I must now go back and correct obvious errors and get feedback from researchers who have better information on specific individuals and family units. This exercise has already borne fruit but researchers should consult me if they have issues with some of the early data. The basis of all this work remains Norman’s monumental efforts in tracking down all the Noel family lines of Newfoundland. I hope he would approve of our efforts. Some chapters of his book may be of interest to various researchers and they should contact me for more info.

Norman’s Main line of interest – William Noel & Elizabeth of Harbour Grace

 

Frances Newell nee Mugford and the Port de Grave Connection

An update on Nicholas Newell and Frances Mugford from Walter Batten:
Aug 5, 1817
Superior Court
St. John’s.

Nicholas Newell, St. John’s Planter Memorial. Married Frances, the eldest daughter of the late Robert Mugford of Port de Grave , Planter deceased. The Mugford Will in 1772 left land there to his wife Ann and then to his daughter Frances. Mugford died about 1794. His will:

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-mugford-robert-7-168.shtml

His widow died in 1813. She had leased the property for 31 years to John Walsh who assigned it to Pete MacPherson who now would not pay. Sep 15, 1817. Continuation of Case. Frances claimed the property and won.

John Noel, father of John Frederick of Harbour Grace tied in

Gloria Bruce has managed to tie-in the John Frederick Noel line. Norman Krischke had believed this line originated in Jersey. Gloria found the death certificate identifying his birth place as Moreton’s Harbour. David Pike provided baptismal information going past 1900. An interesting record:

Noel, John 25. Oct. 1816 23. Feb. 1907 Noel, Clement & Mary Moreton’s Hr, Green Bay Fisherman

Baptised at 91 years old……

This puts him in a family unit with sister Elizabeth and probably makes him a great grandson of Clement of Carbonear.

How Far Back Are We Going To Go?

I had just turned back the dial on Clement below when I got slammed by another early indicator.

Nicholas Newell has turned into a most interesting character. He made the 1794 census in Quidi Vidi. His wife’s estate was in dispute and clear records were left about his family. He seems to have left a business document. There is a reference to a Port de Grave property in the family. If that was not enough……there are 2 versions of the 1794 census posted that are not identical. The one I was using lists him as born in Newfoundland. The other one puts 99 years for how long resident. I take this to mean his family has been in Newfoundland for more than 100 years. This puts the Noels/Newells back to the late 1600’s assuming DNA continues to indicate a connection for various lines. I hope I am interpreting this right, I could not find a clear answer online.

I think I was already heading to that conclusion. Clement Noel/Newells are scarce in England. Clement with the Jersey influence and an early Clement surname, is more common in Newfoundland. The door remains open for ties to the Trinity Newells and also some early St. John’s records. There is also Richard Newell in the Port de Grave area in 1623.

A Fresh Look at Clement Noel of Freshwater

Born ca 1725 or even 1715

I was recently looking at the Nicholas Newell line which ends up in Pouch Cove.  I ended up estimating Nicholas Newell’s birth at 1755.  Clememt Newell of Freshwater’s birth had long been viewed to be 1735, assuming Clement 1760 was his first son. This would be normal in a Jersey family but not so much in an English one. In order to check the feasibility, I went back to look at the obituary found by John Philip Newell of Elizabeth Hudson (nee Newell). This was new info I had not yet incorporated. I thought she had died young in 1797. But what I had read quickly as 25 years was 25 years since a religious change. I estimated her age at death as 47 making her born in 1750 – confirming the previous assumptions. This moves the Noel/Newell generations back by 10 years. The assumed children such as Neil probably had more children earlier before records survived. If Nicholas is the first son it may be a potential indicator of Clement’s father’s name as well.

An estimate of the birth of James Noel of Bareneed is ca 1740. I think it is possible he is the son of Clement as well. The DNA connection (12 marker match) between Bareneed Newells and Harbor Grace Clement of 1804 opens the door for this direct family link. This would mean Clement may have been born around 1715 and died in 1795 at 80.

The earlier start of the family could  partially account for the rapid proliferation we see in the Noels/Newells.

Carbonear Noel/Newells spread out?

Ted Newell of Bareneed recorded:

James Newell of Bareneed b ca 1740 – pretty early

Nicholas Newell of Pouch Cove b ca 1752 (had property in Port de Grave District)

Abram Erel (Noel?) of Burnthead ca 1742

Daniel of Nicholas? to Grate’s Cove b ca 1775

History of Freshwater by Roland Noel:

http://www.freshwater-carbonear.com/

and Graham Butt:

http://www.oocities.org/freshwater_carbonear/notes_of_a_bygone_era.htm

Joseph Noel Ancestors in Jersey

2 generations tracked here:

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/joseph-noel-neal-military/

Jerripedia – Jersey Information Update

Jerripedia has posted indexed baptismal information for all parishes. They will be following up with marriages and burials. This will be hugely helpful for linking families across the pond.

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Family_records

Henry Noell with Gilbert 1578 (W. Gosling) but backs out

Sir Humphrey Gilbert fleet list

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Henry_Knollys_(MP)

If a Henry Noell joined Gilbert later as reported here it must have been another relative.

early names nfld

from Thomas Cole Notes

1675 – Ship: Bricksom Merchant, Brixham, Capt. Nicholas Newell, (Nowell) bapt Brixham 1630 s/o Philip

1705- Bonavista- Captain of the  Pembroke from London, John Noll (his brother?).

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/brixham-devon-nowells/

This Knoll name appearing in this 1704 document is likely Charles Nowles

(or his family) who appears in 1706 St. John’s inhabitants

’1704 Thomas Newell document (Knoll also)

Bridgewater Noels

Josiah Noel founded Bridgewater in the 1880’s. He was the son of Moses Noel (b. 1816). Josiah lived in New Bay and Chance Harbour before settling in with his family in Bridgewater where his descendants still live.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=petenoel&id=I391

Jersey Documents (with translation)

A very big thank you to James Brannon. He first posted that he had the Noel/Renouf documents about 10 years ago. When we contacted him he provided us with copies. The Lower Canada (Quebec) document outlines a land transfer in 1812 between Henry Renouf, an ancestor of James Brannon, and Josue Noel of the Newfoundland Regiment. At the time the regiment was garrisoned in Quebec. This is probably just before Joseph departs to Upper Canada in the war of 1812. It identifies Josue as a native of St Mary, Jersey and his parents as Philipe, a tailor now deceased, and Rachel LeCornu. Josue, it is noted, signs as Joseph Noel. Joseph’s descendants if any have not been identified. The second document is the registration of the transaction in Jersey.

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/07/jersey-land-transaction-1812/

1817 – Tragedy on Sealing Schooner – Captain John Noel

Early in April, 1817 a sealing schooner belonging to Thomas Danson, a merchant of Harbour Grace, blew up a few miles off Cape St. Francis, at the mouth of ConceptionBay…………more

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/27/off-beat-history-tragedy-on-sealing-schooner/

1831 – John Newell survives wreck of Azariah from Cupids

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/06/02/1831-john-newell-survives-wreck-of-azariah/

The Newell Family of Trinity Bay (link on right)

Frank Jones has given us permission to post his work on these Newells that he tracks from the 1600’s. It is a very good read and the effort involved becomes obvious as one follows the generations. He has some additonal data we will post at a later date. His work has been followed up by Herb Gaudie. We have Herb’s rough notes available on a line that moved to Carbonear and then Boston. We will try to reformat them shortly (use tools in PDF to rotate document). There is now interest in trying to tie-in the Newells of Bareneed to this line.

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/category/newells-trinity-bay/

The Montreal and Quebec Eastern Township Noels

From about 1890 there were Noels moving from Newfoundland to Montreal. I have marked some of these on Directories and Census tables. If you spot more let me know. We have Samuel Noel of the Joseph Noel Line and Aaron of Jonathan in 1901. Later Nathaniel of the Bryant’s Cove Noels followed by Eldred of The Martin Noel line arrive. The 4 surviving children of Bertram – Reginald, Naboth, Annie and Cedilla are in Montreal in 1911. Naboth “Nabe” settled in Richmond in the Eastern Townships. Many of the Montreal Noels were in Verdun. Some were aware of this family as their numbers grew.

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/montreal-noels/

The Bryant’s Cove Noels (as opposed to Neils)

This branch looks like it migrated over the ridge from Southside Harbour Grace in the 1860’s or so. The branch seems to feature the name Frederick Noel frequently through the generations. At the moment it is preliminary and we are trying to fill in more details to feel more comfortable with this line. Of course we cannot enter Bryant’s Cove without meeting up with Eric Neil. This is one of his maternal lines.

The Lost Tribe? – The Thomas Noel Line

A couple of times over the years we have had references to the Thomas Noel Line. We seem to have pinned down  to what family line it refers. The Thomas Noel line is the William and Elizabeth line (link on the left). To the best of our knowledge this is an independent line from the Jersey Noels. The name seems to be called the Thomas Noel line either because of William Thomas the son of William or because the family has actually preserved the name of William’s father. William Thomas married Elizabeth Higgins. The Hiiggins family had land in Southside Harbour Grace registered since 1775. The oral history of 3 brothers arrival in Newfoundland is shared by this branch.

http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=GET&db=petenoel4&id=I1

Back at it

After a 7 year hiatus, I am back looking at Family History. I received an email from one of the Newells who came from the Bareneed clan. He had a match on my DNA and wanted to see how our families might be linked. I started to go back through things to see what I could come up with.

http://www.math.mun.ca/~dapike/family_history/ParishRecords/HrGrace_ang_bap.shtml

Joseph Noel Family Ties to Jersey Identified

While gathering additional information on Joseph I had come across a reference to an old land transfer document between Joseph and a  gentleman in Jersey. The document stated that Josue Noel was the son of Philippe Noel and Rachel LeCornu of St. Mary Jersey

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/04/29/1812-jersey-connection/

I contacted a number of researchers who were interested in the Noels and we have started communicating again. Eric has sought the details of Joseph’s military life and reviewed the property transactions he was involved in.  We have also been trying to bring separate branches of the Harbour Grace Noels into the main tree. I think we have had some success although it is still a work-in-progress and should be taken as such by serious genealogists. At the same time we have launched this new blog to replace our old website.

The old website remains active until everything is transferred.

http://www.din.ca/noel/

Pete Noel