Noel Property Southside

From The Newfoundland Quarterly – Spring 1936

“The Jerseymen Of Harbour Grace”

Quoted from the Survey of Settlements 1804…

“on the Southside of Harbour Grace the executors of John Clement claim 330 yards waterfront west from the Stone House. The Noels and the Yetman’s still living there are also originally Jersey families and related to the Clements”

This is our first reference to a Noel peoperty in Harbour Grace. It seems to come with some inaccuracies. The Yetman’s appear to come from Dorset. Clements is a Jersey name and I have found it in St. Mary’s Parish. John Clements though seems to be referred to as a Bristol merchant. He had 4 daughters but not married to Noels.

The De Quettevilles Freres Co. had an establishment on the south side of Harbour Grace, also known as the “Jersey room”, very early in the sixteenth century. The house on this property was called the Stone House and was built of freestone quarried at an island in the bay. Only the foundations now remain.

Since the Noels and Yetmans are not listed as owners in the survey, I assume that they were leasing the property from John Clements. At this time a property like this could be leased for about 20 pounds per annum. John Clement’s executors may have offered it to the tenants. John Clements had died in 1802 and they were still on the property so they must have had a good working relationship. From the record below it would seem that a Clement Noel later did acquire rights to a property but probably not the original one.

Probably a different Noel property is described in the 1831 document below : “All that plantation and fishing room lying being and situated at the south side of Harbor Grace and formerly in the possession and occupancy of Clement Noel together with all erections thereon and all and singular the said Fishing room and Plantation and the appurtenances thereunto belonging or in anywise appertaining the said Plantation being bounded on the east by John Clearey on the west by Robert West on the south by the woods and waste and unoccupied land and on the north by the harbor or sea and admeasuring from east to west one hundred and twenty five yards and from north to south one hundred and thirty five yards,…”

Norman Krischke thought that the land in question had been owned by Clement of Carbonear.

In 1816 a bond had been placed with the property as security. This was for debts of 73 pounds to Nuttal & Cawley Co and it would seem Clement lost the property (with transcription).

clement bond 1816_bright

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-noel-clement-nuttall-1816.shtml

n 1831, William, Jonathan and Joseph purchased the land for their Noel family from Hugh Danson who was in financial difficulty:

William Jonathan and Joseph NOEL secure land

Thank you Gloria Bruce

A fishing “room” consisted of owner’s or agent’s house; shop and store; warehouses for storing fish: cookroom (a building in which the shoremen. that is the laboring men working on shore at the curing and shipping of fish, lived); cooperage; forge; sail and net lofts; stages, or places in which the fish was landed. split, and placed in salt; flakes (erections on which the fish was spread to be dried after being in salt for a certain time); etc.

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…Excerpts taken on June 26th,2003 from the 1986 booktitled “A History of The Roman Catholic Church in Harbour Grace”by. R. J. Connolly

1832..page 112.. “On the south side of HG, Jersey families such as the Clements, the Yetmans, and the Noels had property.

Thomas Newell document 1704 (also Knoll)

‘1704 Thomas Newell document (Knoll also)

Richard Newell ca 1625 Cupid (2nd to last paragraph)

http://www.reocities.com/Athens/Aegean/8173/1610cupids.html

On August 11, 1755 Col. Charles Lawrence issued instructions to his Field Commanders for the transportation of the Acadians from Pisiquid, Mines, Cannard and Coquebid. He stated that the ships will first be sent from Boston to Col. Moncton, commander of Fort Cumberland (formerly Fort Beausejour) at Chignecto, with orders that those transports that are not needed at Chignecto, will be sent to the Minas Bay area. There they were to join the transports that had been sent to Minas from Boston, to help with the transport of the inhabitants from Minas. Of the ten transports sent to Chignecto, three were not needed, the BOSCOWAN, James Newell, master, the DOVE, Samuel Forbes, master and the RANGER, Nathaniel Munroe, master. These three transports were sent to Minas on October 13, 1755 and joined the fleet in the Bay of Minas

The schooner BOSCOWAN, 63 tons, James Newell, Captain, was among the transports that were sent by Col. Charles Lawrence to Chignecto for the use of Col Moncton. When the Boscowan was not needed at Chignecto, Col. Moncton sent the Boscowan to Minas on October 13, 1755. While at Minas, the Boscowan ran aground at Pisiquid, and was not used as a transport.

https://web.archive.org/web/20071009053945/http://www.landrystuff.com/ExpulsionShips.html

http://www.acadian-cajun.com/exsc.htm

http://www.acadian-home.org/Pennsylvania-Gazette.html

Grand Falls Headstones from Gloria

Geoff Martin’s notices – Noel/Newell/Neil

newspaper-clippings

About this website …

This website is an ongoing work which attempts to provide a place to bring together web-based information on the many branches of the Noel family who settled in Newfoundland.

In the late-eighteenth and early-nineteenth centuries, several Noel families settled in and around Harbour Grace, Newfoundland. Many of these families are thought to have come from the Channel Islands, and particularly Jersey. Over the years, many descendants of the early Noel families moved away from Newfoundland, mostly to places across Canada, but also to the USA. Genealogical record-keeping among the Newfoundland Noel families over the past two hundred years seems to have been rather spotty, and may have been complicated by a church or two (or three or four) going up in flames, and destroying valuable records in the process.

Much of the genealogical information provided by this site, as well as most of the historical information, was originally based on Gather Up All The Noels, a very detailed history of the Noels of Newfoundland which was researched and compiled by Norman Krischke.

Genealogical references are stored in several RootsWeb Databases. For more details, visit the the Noel Family Tree links which appear at the left of this page.

Noels births and families Labrador

Labrador

A Recent Updates List

Constantly tweaking pages as I stumble across minor items

Dec 18, 2021 P. Noel in John Davis account 1740 homepage

Oct 1, 2021 Neils/Knills of Bryant’s Cove re-written

July 27, 2020 Crocker’s Cove Map replaces broken link

July 27, 2020 Deleted some broken links

Apr 17, 2018 DNA page updated

Dec 16, 2016 Geoff Martin’s Newspaper Clippings added to Front page and Vital Stats

Dec 8, 2016 Richard Newell 1623 info added to Coopers Cove

May 13, 2016 Independent Company description in Military 1689-1717

Sept 8, 2015 Freshwater Petition 1784 to Front Page

Aug 26, 2015 Captain John Messervy note in Freshwater

April 11, 2015 Clement Noel land purchase doc in Freshwater important!

Feb 11, 2015 Indexing project CO194 & Letterbook to Front Page

December 8, 2014 Huguenot links in Origins

December 8, 2014 DNA – Haplogroup page added

December 5, 2014 Original Thomas Moores will in DNA links

December 5, 2014 Updated Family Tree in Trinity Newells

December 2, 2014 Potential impact of Trinity updates to Pouch Cove

December 2, 2014 Potential impact of Trinity updates to Bareneed

December 2, 2014 Medical information from your FTDNA added to DNA Category

December 2, 2014 FTDNA promotion added to DNA Category

November 28, 2014

This summer there was some amazing new info stumbled upon. Many of the pages have significant updates and new pages were added.

Freshwater/Carbonear page added

Harbour Grace Page significantly updated

Goose Cove, St Anthony info separated into its own page.

William, Joseph and Jonathan Noel of HG page is now for William alone

Trinity/Bonavista page significantly updated

Poole, Dorset page added to UK connections

Brixham updated with Knowling info in UK connections

Taylor Family page added to DNA family links.

Moores Family page added to DNA family links

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July 10, 2014 Link to Family Finder matching Families on front page

July 10, 2014 Analysis of Clement Noel letter 1774 on Wills etc

July 10, 2014 YDNA update 67 markers on DNA page

July 10, 2014 So Longe as There comes Noe Women link on Various families

July 10, 2014 Clement Noel Shipwreck 1831 in Captains

May 17, 2014 further info on Richard Newall 1623 on front page

Apr 26, 2014 Richard Newell 1623 & Thomas Cole info front page

Mar 24, 2014 Notes on the DNAGedcom analyzer tool added under DNA

Mar 20, 2014 British Naval Reserve records Index with birth in Military

Mar 20, 2014 British Naval Service records Index with birth in Military

Mar 7, 2014 Index of Merchant Marine Medals (400) from WWI with birth in Military

Mar 6, 2014 link to Cynthia Noel Art Gallery Front page

Mar 6, 2014 Updated HG/Carbonear origins to suit new DNA data

Mar 5, 2014 UK Quaker Roots to UK

Mar 5, 2014 Nowells of Somerset to UK

Mar 3, 2014 Jane Nowell story to UK, Brixham

Mar 1, 2014 Tenby,Wales Fishing Fleet under UK, Brixham

Feb 28, 2014 Dewsbury Nowells to UK page

Feb 28, 2014 DNA page updated

Feb 27, 2014 UK Connections – Brixham many minor bits

Feb 24, 2014 1874 Carbonear Captain Joyce wreck on Anticosti under Captains, Ships

Feb 20, 2014 1763 passengers Newfoundland to Boston under Captains, Ships

Feb 20, 2014 1679 3 passengers Barbados to NL under St. John’s

Feb 17, 2014 Y-DNA update front page

Feb 17, 2014 William, Joseph and Jonathan questions on their page

Feb 17, 2014 Obits from Geoff Martin updated on Obituaries page

Aug 28, 2013 Norman Krischke’s obit to Obituaries

Aug 27, 2013 Major Retraction on Joseph Noel research – front page

Aug 2, 2013 Pouch Cove Tidbits added

June 4, 2013 Updated Financier Sir Martin Noel with Caribbean info and more on brothers

May 24, 2013 Eldred Noel & Eliza Greely info in Montreal – Census etc

May 24, 2013 Updated links on the left side menu – same data HG but sorted format…..worth a look

May 23, 2013 Harbour Grace Death Register Index added to Obituaries

May 3, 2013 moved UK data & Jersey onto linked blog Noels/Newells UK

May 2, 2013 new info on London Financiers added

April 27, 2013 James Newell Adrift added to Captains

April 26, 2013 Charles Knill of New Hmpshire added to Knills

April 22, 2013 Cooper’s Cove Category added

April 22, 2013 London Financiers Category added

April 1, 2013 link to Armorial of Jersey on Jersey page

March 30, 2013 Richard Newell of Barnstaple 1726 in St John’s

March 30, 2013 Knowles/Noles Baptisms in St John’s

March 30, 2013 Thomas Knowles of Ireland doc in St John’s

March 30, 2013 Knowles doc in St John’s

March 29, 2013 Walter Batten Brixham family notes and ships added added

March 29, 2013 Bareneed Summary added

March 28, 2013 Seary on Parsons origins added to Harbour Grace Families

March 28, 2013 Frances Mugford Newell Port de Grave to Pouch Cove and Bareneed

March 28, 2013 added Richard Newell birth Info for Coopers Cove

March 17, 2013 Brigus records and Family Tree added

March 16, 2013 Brigus John Noel House info added

March 15, 2013 Knill family section added

March 8, 2013 St John’s section petition 1709

March 3, 2013 Added Geoff Martin’s Marr/Birth from old newspapers to Census etc.

March 3, 2013 Updated Geoff Martin’s obits from old newspapers

Feb 24, 2013 Joseph Nowell 1759 document added to St John’s Section

Feb 23, 2013 John Frederick Noel line tied in by Gloria Bruce

Feb 23, 2013 Pouch Cove Newells link to estate transcriptions

Dec 29, 2012 miscellaneous files added to Pouch Cove

Dec 25, 2012 continuous upating Pouch Cove Newells

Dec 24, 2012 St Johns Knowles of Devon Fishing Fleet 1669

Dec 24, 2012 Devon Fishermen 1642 Petition to Martin, Sheppard Families

Dec 7, 2012 – 1719 business doc – Martin, Sheppard Families has Newell

Dec 6, 2012 minor changes to Pouch Cove Newells – PDF’s, Isaac Tree

Dec 3, 2012 added some early Sheppard links

Dec 3, 2012 updated the Pouch Cove data

Dec 2, 2012 Brigus Noel/Newell info added

Nov 29, 2012 minor changes to Noel Origins sheet to Southside Harbour Grace/Carbonear

Nov 29, 2012 added link to Nicholas Newell descendants on front page and in Pouch Cove Newells

Nov 29, 2012 added Discussion to Pouch Cove Newells

Nov 29, 2012 added Message Board info and Burials to Pouch Cove Newells

Nov 29, 2012 added Ted Newell Piece to Front page

Nov 27, 2012 added relook at Clement 1725 to front page

Nov 27, 2012 added 1921 Census to Pouch Cove Newells

Nov 26, 2012 minor data to Brixham Nowells

Nov 26, 2012 Added Pouch Cove Newells category with Parish records

Nov 24, 2012 Separated St John’s Nowells to own category

Nov 22, 2012 Added Noel Origins sheet to Southside Harbour Grace/Carbonear

Nov 21, 2012 Updated Land info and added Clement Bond 1816

Nov 20, 2012 Brixham Nowells of Devon category added

Nov 20, 2012 Wales reference from Bareneed added to William, Jos, & Jon

Nov 20, 2012 William and Elizabeth Noel Summary added to William, Joseph and Jonathan

Nov 13, 2012 Joseph Noel/Neal’s Jersey Ancestors

Nov 13, 2012 Henry Noell with Gilbert pre-1600 on front page

Nov 13, 2012 Jerripedi – Jersey indexed parish records now online on front page

Nov 13, 2012 DNA test links including Family Tree Special offer

Nov 13, 2012 Start of HG Militia added to Military

Nov 13, 2012 Added 1586 French Captain Noel visits Trinity Bay to Captains, Ships….

Nov 13, 2012 Added “Law of Capture” Noel s Warren to Captains, Ships….

Nov 13, 2012 Added early Parsons info to HG history

Nov 13, 2012 Updated Sheppard Summary again HG history

Oct 29, 2012 – 1709 Military and Administrative Personnel in NF under Military

Oct 28, 2012 Eliol & Frances Noel Family cemetery plot from Gloria added

Oct 23, 2012 Sheppard Summary to HG history

Oct 21, 2012 Listing of all burials in St Peters Southside HG from Gloria in Headstones

Oct 7, 2012 more obits from Geoff Martin added

Sept 26, 2012 Historical Notes from Daily News added to City of HG

Sept 17, 2012 New Headstones from Gloria added

Sept 17, 2012 Clemence Noel daughter obit (JP Newell) and Misc. obits (G. Martin)

July 21, 2012 Updated Montreal Census and directory info Joseph, Robert, Eldred Noel

July 21, 2012 Samuel Noel photo from Ed Jones

July 11, 2012 John Monk Noel photo from Geoff Martin

July 4, 2012 Photos from Gloria and Norman Krischke added

July 4, 2012 Headstones from Gloria added

June 27, 2012 Jersey – Noel Name Index and Family Group data from the LDS IGI

June 27, 2012 John Noel (Newall) info in Southside – Jersey

June 25, 2012 The sailing sons of Moses under Captains

June 25, 2012 Lance and Mary Timms photos added

June 24, 2012 Error corrected – Clement and Harriet moved to Richard Taylor Noel

June 24, 2012 Major restructure of family lines W,J, J combined

June 24, 2012 Josiah of Moses line extended

June 24, 2012 Register listing of all Noels discarded

June 24,2012 Looking for Jonathan in 3 bros W,J,J category added

June 24,2012 Matthew Martin Harbour Grace Recollections to HG

June 23, 2012 Newells of Bareneed added

June 20, 2012 Photos Verdun Noels and Harbour Grace relatives

June 2, 2012 – 1831 Newell survives wreck of Azariah (Ships)

June 2, 2012 added reference to Devon, Dorset from Decks Awash (uncategorized)

June 2, 2012 added Jersey muster list of 1815

June 2, 2012 Updated Noel Captain list

June 2, 2012 Started a Category for Noel Captains, Ships and Seamen

June 2, 2012 Updated Labrador birth data with Carbonear info

May 30, 2012 Resolute of George Noel Jersey Wrecked

May 28, 2012 Newspaper Captain John Noel 1817

May 27, 2012 Translation of Jersey documents added

May 27, 2012 Philippe Tree – Third original brother added (may change)

May 27, 2012 Added Photo Mary and Fanny Theresa Noseworthy

May 26, 2012 Clemence of Carbonear tree updated more to come

May 23, 2012 Added Newells of Trinity Bay (Frank Jones & Herb Goudie)

May 23, 2012 Added Gloria’s Property Document (Wills, Property etc.)

May 23, 2012 Added Jersey Noel Ship Captains (under Jersey)

May 22, 2012 Updated Jersey Documents background (under Joseph)

May 22, 2012 Added 1400’s Normandy Garrison to Muster lists (from Eric Neil)

May 17, 2012 link to Jersey militia info

May 17, 2012 More Jersey census – estimate # of Noels 1778

May 17, 2012 Link to Newell DNA study added

May 14, 2012 Thomas Newell Jr/Sr 1704 document (also Knoll)

May 14, 2012 Added Headstones Grand Falls from Gloria

May 13, 2012 Updated Muster Rolls with Woodfine info and some British War Office links

May 12, 2012 Carbonear data from Clayton Noel posted

May 12,2012 Montreal summary front page

May 12,2012 Samuel Noel family, Howard Noel family, Bertram’s Children

May 12, 2012 many minor updates to trees from old emails

May 11, 2012 Harbour Grace – Labrador connections in Parish records

May 10, 2012 Harbour Grace Family Register added

May 9, 2012 Montreal Directories 1900’s and 1901, 1911 Censi added

May 9, 2012 Old Harbour Grace Pictorial book from Gloria added

May 9, 2012 New Headstones from Gloria

May 8, 2012 Update front page re Jersey documents

May 8, 2012 Removed Jonathan Frederick & Martha family (On other W&E tree) thank you Gloria

May 8, 2012 Jersey land transaction cleaned up image

May 8, 2012 Jersey land transaction documents added

May 8, 2012 Added Jonathan Frederick & Martha (b ca 1830) family

May 8, 2012 Moved Joseph b 1837 and Jonathan Shepherd to Joseph b 1809 (new info)

May 7, 2012 Medical Genealogy Info (preliminary)

May 7, 2012 Noel Ship Captains list in uncategorized

May 6, 2012 Added some Parsons data to Amelia Noel of William & Grace

May 5, 2012 Vernalyne’s 2 Parsons Family Bibles added

May 5, 2012 put second link to David Pike’s headstones

May 5, 2012 Austin Sheppard provided info on Mary of Clement III

May 5, 2012 Moved brothers Aaron and Josiah from father Joseph to father Jonathan

May 4, 2012 Obits for Roland Noel and Mildred Peach, sister of Selby Noel & Misc obit

May 4, 2012 Witness Harbour Grace Affray 1883 Fred Noel

May 4, 2012 front page update Bryant’s Cove Noels

May 4, 2012 Added link to David Pike’s Headstone Information

May 3, 2012 Connected Significant line to Frederick from Bryant’s Cove Noels

May 3, 2012 Bryant’s Cove land map added

May 3, 2012 David Pikes obits

May 3, 2012 Will of Edward Williams to John F & William H Noel

May 3, 2012 The Lost Tribe? Thomas Noel Line on front page

May 2, 2012 Vernalyne Photos and Headstone

May 2, 2012 Cynthia Photo

May 2, 2012 JerseyFamily History Society Link

May 1, 2012 Add update log

May 1, 2012 David Pikes link to Parish Records

May 1, 2012 St John’s Early Noels/Neals in Parish Records

May 1, 2012 JerseyLinks

May 1, 2012 DNA info

April 30, 2012 Linked census, Parish records from old site

April 30, 2012 Gloria Bruce family photos

April 30, 2012 non-Joseph Noel Muster Rolls to Military

Montreal Noels

Elizabeth Greely and Eldred Noel in Montreal:
Elizabeth Greely and Eldred Noel

Excellent list of Montreal Directories

http://bibnum2.banq.qc.ca/bna/lovell/

a selection of Noels in Montreal from Harbour Grace families

Aaron, Samuel, Nathaniel, Eldred Sr, Joseph III, Reginald, Naboth, Robert, Charles, Eldred Jr (Bill), Walter, Jessie Gertrude, Gertrude

1900 Lovell Montreal

1920 Lovell montreal

1945 lovell montreal 1

Some Noels in Montreal Census 1901 & 1911

Montreal 1901 & 1911 census partial

1921 census

Interesting index covers Quebec Ports (including Montreal) for the periods 31 Jul 1903 to 13 Oct 1910

Passenger List Project

Harbour Grace Noel Lines

Harbour Grace house of Clement Noel Jr born ca 1760

Clement Noel Jr of Freshwater seems to be the the head of most of the Harbour Grace lines. He first married Patience Taylor and after she died married her sister Mary Taylor. It appears that some of the children from the first marriage followed their father to Harbour Grace where he started his second family. The family was settled in Southside Harbour Grace at the time of the plantation records ca 1804. Some of his children are recorded and others are presumed. During a downturn in the economy in 1816, it looks like he placed a bond secured by his house. This was for debts of 73 pounds to Nuttal & Cawley Co and it would seem Clement lost the property (with transcription).

This is a curious note I will follow up:

25 Oct. 1781

Richard Edwards

Charles Garland, Harbour Grace

Orders to measure the boundaries of a fishing room bought by Clement Noel of Harbour Grace.

http://www2.swgc.mun.ca/nfld_history/Letterbook/GN2-1-A-9.htm

clement bond 1816_bright

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/cbc-noel-clement-nuttall-1816.shtml

It looks like he went to Moreton’s Harbour for a time.where possibly some Taylor relatives were located. His son John was born there. In 1831, William (married to Grace Sheppard), Jonathan and Joseph purchased the house back for the Noel family from Hugh Danson who was in financial difficulty.

William Jonathan and Joseph NOEL secure land

Thank you Gloria Bruce

Family History Data

Norman Krischke had the following oral history on the Harbour Grace Noels linking the sons of Clement Jr of Freshwater:

This is likely inaccurate. Simeon and James Archibald were likely 1st cousins once removed. The connection between the family lines is likely valid though. Norman had this John born in 1814 as John Frederick from oral history but supporting documentation cannot be found.

Known and speculated children of Clement Noel Jr b 1760 in Freshwater:

Clement jr

Earlier family connections can be found on these pages:

garlands

http://familiesofnfld.wordpress.com/category/taylors/

http://familiesofnfld.wordpress.com/category/moores/

Another Stray John Newell married Mariah Parsons:

Mariah was the daughter of Charles Sr. and Susan(nah) Parsons of Bear Cove.

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Wills/parsons-charles-1-478.shtml

Newell	Charles Frederick	John & Mariah	3 Aug 1838	Bear’s Cove	Methodist
Newell	Julia Ann	John & Mariah	7 Nov 1839	Bear’s Cove	Methodist
Newell	Louisa Frederica	John & Mariah	7 Dec 1843	Bear’s Cove	Methodist
Newell	William Edgar	John & Mariah	9 Mar 1842	Bear’s Cove	Methodist

I believe John may be the son of John and Frances Noel who was born Sept 10, 1812.

Newell	Richard	John & Frances	9 Apr 1815	S.S.	23 Feb 1815	HG st Paul’s
Newell	John	John & Frances	29 Sep 1816	S.S.	10 Sep 1812	HG st Paul’s

These Carbonear records are likely the same family unit:

NOEL	Patience	John & Fanny	b Sep 10 1808	bap Jan 29 1812	Carbonear	Carb Vital
NOEL	Mary	John & Fanny	b Mar 9 1810	bap Jan 29 1812	Carbonear	Carb Vital

b Dec 8 1816

Hr Grace, South Side

NOEL

John & Frances

Fredrick

bap Mar 25 1817

An Earlier Noel Connection to Harbour Grace???

1750 “De Quetteville was trading from Harbour Grace between 1750 and 1790, being linked as time went on with Nicholas Fiott (largest Jersey trader, also with land in Harbour Grace and their agent in London).” Philipe De Quetteville was president of the Jersey Chamber of Commerce 1863. The family business Nicolle & Co. was linked by marriage to the De Quettevilles. Nicolles were present in Harbour Grace and Carbonear.

In Jersey Elizabeth Noel married Philippe De Quetteville:

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/Descendants_of_Philippe_de_Quetteville

and here:

http://www.theislandwiki.org/index.php/St_Martin_de_Quetteville_descendancy

From The Newfoundland Quarterly – Spring 1936

“The Jerseymen Of Harbour Grace”

Quoted from the Survey of Settlements 1804…

Unfortunately at this point it is not absolutely clear to me that the Noels were linked to the correct Philippe De Quetteville who was active in the Gaspe and Labrador 1774-1785. DeQuetteville was the first firm established Blanc Sablon in the Strait of Belle Isle in 1784. They operated out of St Helier, Jersey which would explain the move by the above line from St Martin to St Helier.

DeQuetteville HG

By 1804 Fiott has also exited Harbour Grace. It is possible he flipped his properties there to John Clements. Clements also had a Northside HG property. It could be the Noels and Yetmans were operating the 2 stages on the old DeQuetteville property.

Also:

31 10 1751 Edmond Noel (St Mt) married Sara de Queteville (Gr)

04 Oct 1755 Sarah De Quetteville (Widow Of Edmond Noel) died

Thomas de Quetteville (1671-1733) married Marguerite Noel( -1750)

30 09 1691 Thomas son of Clement de Queteville and Marguerite daughter of Michel Noel

Early Family Connections:

Looking for Jonathan

Jonathan Noel seems to be one of the hardest lines to sort out – not much in the way of baptismal records for children. Likely he was brother to at least Joseph and William (married Gracious).

This relationship makes a lot of sense based on the land deal of 1831 made by them and the clustering of names in various directories and petitions later on. I have tracked Joseph’s son Jonathan Shepherd Noel to Woody Point. A Joseph Noel appears as a witness to marriages there but I did not realize it was the father. It seems the move was permanent. There is a cluster of deaths in Harbour Grace:

Jonathan	22 Feb 1876	70	South Side
Joseph	17 Feb 1876	65	South Side
Josiah	22 Jan 1876		South Side

I think Josiah was the son of Jonathan…….

Further details of Jonathan Noel were found in the Daily News as remembered by Matthew Martin in 1907:

Click to access matthew-martin-on-harbour-grace-4-articles1.pdf

A side note here: Geoff Martin has extensive research on the Martin family and would be interested in exchanging information with anyone looking at their Martin roots. He took my Martins back to the Ark.

From Matthew Martin’s recollections, it seems from that Jonathan was a very successful Master and sealer. He was from Southside Harbour Grace but bought a property downtown on Water street just east of Noad St. He developed (?) this property with a couple of buildings. He captained the Active and the Brothers (1852+).

Of the family lines that were unconnected, I believe Josiah and Aaron were brothers. When Josiah dies at an early age, Aaron and his wife are witnesses when his widow remarries. They both have sons Jonathan. A William Noel marries Ann Pinkstone with 2 Jonathan Noel witnesses. I believe these are his father and an uncle son of William.

Researching Josiah Noel I found a Bridgewater family and wondered if this was Jonathan’s son who might have moved. It turned out that this was Josiah of Moses Noel who had relocated. The history of Bridgewater says he was the founder of the town in the 1880’s. He had also lived at Chance Harbour and New Bay.

In Montreal

Aaron relocated to Pointe St Charles, Montreal and is found in the 1901 census with his son Jonathan. Aaron dies in 1904. As we have the family mapped out now, Joseph Noel Sr had a son Joseph Noel (died 1882) who would be Aaron’s cousin. In the 1900 Montreal directory there is a Joseph Noel (III? maybe) just down the street from Aaron on St. Magdalen Street (now Ste Madeleine Street) St. Joseph Jr’s other son Samuel is shown in this directory as well on Colerane (now Coleraine) about 5 blocks away. In the 1911 census Samuel Noel was on Bourgeois St (now Rue Bourgeoys) in Pointe St Charles along with Nathaniel of the Frederick Noel line. Rue Bourgeoys is parallel to Ste Madeleine one block over.

https://noelhistory.wordpress.com/2012/05/08/montreal-noels/

The following documents would not have been possible without the efforts of the many transcribers at Newfoundland & Labrador Genweb and Newfoundland Grand Banks. Particular thanks to Bonnie Hickey for her work on the Conception Bay region

Harbour Grace all Surnames – Transcriptions check for errors!

Sorted alphabetically so check name spelling variations carefully……

HG Methodist Baptisms not in above:

https://familysearch.org/search/image/index#uri=https%3A%2F%2Ffamilysearch.org%2Frecords%2Fwaypoint%2F5478378%3Fcc%3D1793777

From Gloria Bruce:

https://noelhistory.files.wordpress.com/2012/07/st-peters-cemetery-board-hg1.pdf

A good summary of Harbour Grace History:

http://coveduck.com/settlement/19harbourgrace.htm

To add to that summary, I was surprised that in the burning of Harbour Grace in 1705, there were only 12 structures:

“I detached Sir de Bellestre with fourteen men to take possession of Harbor Grace which I had left a league and a half behind in order to surprise that of Carbonear. Sir de Bellestre , having taken possession of that harbor where there were twelve dwellings in which he found only ten men, who he brought back the same day, and eighteen women and children who had not been in our charge, having reported to him that the rest had fled; that same day in the evening,”

http://ngb.chebucto.org/Articles/montigny.shtml

Also when the first article was talking about 40 active mercantile establishments, I think this is for Conception Bay and not Harbour Grace. It is likely closer to 1750 than 1716 as well.

The Daily News Historical aticles of Harbour Grace:

In the 1950’s and 1960’s the newspaper ran regular articles on the history of Harbour Grace.

A number of family names are mentioned. Unfortunately the information must be sifted through…….

saga of the sealfishery

Churches

Fire department

Postal

Decks Awash article:

http://collections.mun.ca/PDFs/cns_decks/DA_Vol11_No02.pdf

Body dropped on the doorstep of the magistrate

http://archivalmoments.ca/page/22/

Mummering incident

http://archivalmoments.ca/page/27/

Matthew Martin had some interesting history of the early Jersey families of Harbour Grace:

Matthew Martin on Harbour Grace 4 articles

Geoff Martin has extensive research on the Martin family and would be interested in exchanging information with anyone looking at their Martin roots. He took my Martins back to the Ark.

Sheppard Family of Harbour Grace from Norman Krischke. The early family data is unconfirmed and errors found in the document are worrisome. Nevertheless this seems to be the only information spanning from the 1600’s.

Sheppard Summary

Some early Parsons Family notes:

Parsons Summary

Photos and info here:

http://web.archive.org/web/20000612212917/http://infonet.st-johns.nf.ca/providers/green/harbourgrace.html

From Gloria – contains many many photos:

Pictorial_Harbor_Grace 1910